992 preview
10-11-2018, 11:27 AM
#31
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I was going to wait and order a 992 GTS, but the styling cues inside/out put me off enough to just go ahead and pull the trigger on 991.2
And I didn’t even know all these details, no regrets so far
And I didn’t even know all these details, no regrets so far
10-11-2018, 11:27 AM
#32
Race Director
Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
Sorry, but they're fake. As soon as they are no longer attached to the exhaust, they're fake.
The GT2 RS has fake exaust "finishers". There I said it. I pissed in the cheerios of the holy of holy 991's. But they're still fake. They're not part of the exhaust system. I had these on my Lexus, and I've seen them on all manner of new Mercs, Audis, etc. Actually Audi is dropping exhausts overall and going to some kind of black plastic thing that looks like it should be an exhaust when the real tip is hidden under the bumper. We may be splitting hairs, but it's just goofy looking, and indicative of the further shift away from real parts on the car in the direction of "faux" parts. Designed to look sporty, but not actually be purposeful.Nope, not at all.
The GT2 RS has fake exaust "finishers". There I said it. I pissed in the cheerios of the holy of holy 991's. But they're still fake. They're not part of the exhaust system. I had these on my Lexus, and I've seen them on all manner of new Mercs, Audis, etc. Actually Audi is dropping exhausts overall and going to some kind of black plastic thing that looks like it should be an exhaust when the real tip is hidden under the bumper. We may be splitting hairs, but it's just goofy looking, and indicative of the further shift away from real parts on the car in the direction of "faux" parts. Designed to look sporty, but not actually be purposeful.Nope, not at all.
When you have tailpipes on these turbo zingers that are no bigger than a straw, who needs real exhaust tips?
10-11-2018, 11:34 AM
#33
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I agree.
I won't carp on the looks. I've not seen it in person, nor have I seen it without camo. And I have been proven wrong before in pictures (most recently in the Aston Vantage which looks STUNNING in person but way to Miata-like in pictures). So I'll keep my mouth shut on that.
But on tech and finishes....I'm getting less excited. I bought a 911 over some other cars because, despite it's lack of current tech on the inside, It's still an amazing performance vehicle. A pure sports car. Now it seems as if all the naysayers are right, this is turning into a Panamera Coupe or an Audi-type product. Porsche, IMO, has botched the digital dash in the Panamera and Cayenne. It's honestly enough for me to not buy the new Cayenne because it's very confusing and not well set up. I'm not a luddite. I love tech. I love the Model S's layout. BMW's new digi-dash and iDrive is great. I'm one of the few people who loves the new MB digital dash and the thumb pads. I think it's easy to use, well executed and looks stunning in person. Love it. It's enough to make me want to BUY a creampuff floaty sedan. Whereas the muddled mess in the Panny / Cayenne is enough to make me not want to buy it. Seriously, we spend a good amount of time on the inside of our cars. This stuff is important. The touch points, the feel of the materials, it's a serious part of why we buy the cars. I hope they have improved it on the 992.
But the rest of it....meh. Just doesn't get me excited. Mostly PDK focused? Why not buy a Merc GT at this point?
I won't carp on the looks. I've not seen it in person, nor have I seen it without camo. And I have been proven wrong before in pictures (most recently in the Aston Vantage which looks STUNNING in person but way to Miata-like in pictures). So I'll keep my mouth shut on that.
But on tech and finishes....I'm getting less excited. I bought a 911 over some other cars because, despite it's lack of current tech on the inside, It's still an amazing performance vehicle. A pure sports car. Now it seems as if all the naysayers are right, this is turning into a Panamera Coupe or an Audi-type product. Porsche, IMO, has botched the digital dash in the Panamera and Cayenne. It's honestly enough for me to not buy the new Cayenne because it's very confusing and not well set up. I'm not a luddite. I love tech. I love the Model S's layout. BMW's new digi-dash and iDrive is great. I'm one of the few people who loves the new MB digital dash and the thumb pads. I think it's easy to use, well executed and looks stunning in person. Love it. It's enough to make me want to BUY a creampuff floaty sedan. Whereas the muddled mess in the Panny / Cayenne is enough to make me not want to buy it. Seriously, we spend a good amount of time on the inside of our cars. This stuff is important. The touch points, the feel of the materials, it's a serious part of why we buy the cars. I hope they have improved it on the 992.
But the rest of it....meh. Just doesn't get me excited. Mostly PDK focused? Why not buy a Merc GT at this point?
10-11-2018, 11:35 AM
#34
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You won't regret it. The last year of a Porsche model is the best one to have. If you can get over what you're missing in the new car tech wise, you're always ahead.
10-11-2018, 12:31 PM
#36
And don't get me wrong, i'm looking forward to the mission e, definitely getting one when my macan goes out of commission. and i hope they throw all the new gadgets in that car. night vision camera? sign me up! brakes with less brake dust? f' ya!
but i'm buying that car to haul people around as comfortable as possible, a very different reason for why i bought the 911. do i want a 360 camera on a sports car with the trade off of fake exhaust tips? nopenopenopenopenope
Last edited by basic666; 10-11-2018 at 12:51 PM.
10-11-2018, 05:27 PM
#37
10-11-2018, 09:35 PM
#38
Another article:
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...w-first-drive/
Interestingly Automobile appears to have driven the prototypes, while Car and Driver could not.
Also Automobile reports Base and S will roll out first, while C&D states the S and 4S will be out first...
"In keeping with Porsche’s modern-era rollout strategy, the 992 will initially only be available in Carrera 2 and Carrera 2S flavors. "
??
We'll know soon enough at the LA Auto Show, November 30, 2018..
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...w-first-drive/
Interestingly Automobile appears to have driven the prototypes, while Car and Driver could not.
Also Automobile reports Base and S will roll out first, while C&D states the S and 4S will be out first...
"In keeping with Porsche’s modern-era rollout strategy, the 992 will initially only be available in Carrera 2 and Carrera 2S flavors. "
??
We'll know soon enough at the LA Auto Show, November 30, 2018..
10-12-2018, 01:09 AM
#39
It would be shocking if final interior materials actually feel low budget. So far that’s the only thing really scaring me. And 360 cams are great. Not sure I ever want to own another car without them
10-12-2018, 01:21 AM
#40
Race Director
Originally Posted by slc4s
It would be shocking if final interior materials actually feel low budget. So far that’s the only thing really scaring me. And 360 cams are great. Not sure I ever want to own another car without them
Compared to 991.2, you will see the difference. Those with an eye for quality will. Geez, they're even gonna charge $$ for Alcantara headliners now. Cloth comes standard. Common Porsche!!
10-12-2018, 08:35 AM
#42
Racer
Apparently in the 992, there will be a camera analyzing the road conditions and if wet, it will adjust the spoiler accordingly. The road in the picture looks dry to me so there might be a different reason (maybe speed related)?
10-12-2018, 08:49 AM
#43
Racer
If the interior quality of the Panamera can be taken as guidance, CarandDriver wrote about the 2018 Panamera Sport Turismo: " The Panamera Sport Turismo sports an interior that favors form over function...the materials and build quality are top-notch..."
10-12-2018, 09:14 AM
#44
Race Car
I don't mind a larger screen in the center console...just don't take away the tactile buttons and make me hunt for them on a screen in a moving car!
10-12-2018, 10:18 AM
#45
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Nothing to be scared of, SLC4S! As mentioned before, any discussion about pre-production (PS2) interior quality is unsubstantiated and pointless until the official production cars (PS3) are out there.
If the interior quality of the Panamera can be taken as guidance, CarandDriver wrote about the 2018 Panamera Sport Turismo: " The Panamera Sport Turismo sports an interior that favors form over function...the materials and build quality are top-notch..."
If the interior quality of the Panamera can be taken as guidance, CarandDriver wrote about the 2018 Panamera Sport Turismo: " The Panamera Sport Turismo sports an interior that favors form over function...the materials and build quality are top-notch..."
Personally I wouldn't call a giant black panel "top notch".