Georg Kacher: Porsche Controls the Future for Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, and Lamborghini
09-10-2018, 01:31 PM
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Georg Kacher: Porsche Controls the Future for Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, and Lamborghini
Lots of interesting stuff here: https://www.automobilemag.com/news/p...d-lamborghini/
Porsche is about to release the next 911, dubbed 992. Originally, this was meant to be the final iteration of the MHB toolkit, but since the 992 architecture can accommodate PHEV componentry, we would not be surprised to see it live on in modified form. While the 992 retains the classic rear-engine layout, the still-pending 960 would be a mid-engine coupé featuring a six-cylinder boxer and a 200-kW (268-hp) electric front-wheel drive system.
Although Porsche has allegedly signed off the Boxster/Cayman replacement (codenamed 983), it’s another low-margin project because the segment is in free fall. We hear that 983 is package-protected for a straight-five engine in case Audi feels like replacing the TT with a proper sports car.
Rumor also has it that Porsche is investigating an all-electric sports car scenario. Derived from the MMB components set, there is talk of a neo-Cayman E (two motors good for 400 hp, 100-kWh battery) and a neo-919 E (three motors rated at 600 hp, 125 kWh battery).
Although Porsche has allegedly signed off the Boxster/Cayman replacement (codenamed 983), it’s another low-margin project because the segment is in free fall. We hear that 983 is package-protected for a straight-five engine in case Audi feels like replacing the TT with a proper sports car.
Rumor also has it that Porsche is investigating an all-electric sports car scenario. Derived from the MMB components set, there is talk of a neo-Cayman E (two motors good for 400 hp, 100-kWh battery) and a neo-919 E (three motors rated at 600 hp, 125 kWh battery).
09-10-2018, 07:27 PM
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"and a neo-919" Doubt Porsche are going to name a road car the same as one of their existing prototype race cars.
09-10-2018, 10:29 PM
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09-11-2018, 01:07 AM
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Is it still considered a 'prototype' if it won LeMans?
Not like they ever intended to put the 919 into production. It is basically the 918's competition sibling.
Not like they ever intended to put the 919 into production. It is basically the 918's competition sibling.
09-11-2018, 01:09 AM
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"Prototype" is the colloquial term generally used for race cars that are not based on production cars. The LMP1/2 category stands for Le Mans Prototype.
I think the use of the word stems from the fact that the cars are usually a rolling test bed for future technologies, thus a "prototype" for them.
09-11-2018, 02:06 AM
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"Prototype" is the colloquial term generally used for race cars that are not based on production cars. The LMP1/2 category stands for Le Mans Prototype.
I think the use of the word stems from the fact that the cars are usually a rolling test bed for future technologies, thus a "prototype" for them.
I think the use of the word stems from the fact that the cars are usually a rolling test bed for future technologies, thus a "prototype" for them.
09-11-2018, 02:27 PM
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Some interesting observations about the potential engineering fallout from really innovative "prototype" racing (as opposed to simple class labels) is in a great writeup on driving the 919:
<https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/chris-harris-drives-porsche-919-hybrid>
<https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/chris-harris-drives-porsche-919-hybrid>
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09-11-2018, 07:26 PM
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No, I mean existing prototype race cars, as in the number has been assigned to a totally different car already. Retired or not doesn't matter.
Key difference being that a 718 Spyder was a lot closer to a road car and if I'm not mistaken were able to be made road legal, plus the similarities between new and old are evident enough for Porsche to name a new model after it. Unless Porsche are releasing a road legal version of the 919 Hybrid (which Kacher wasn't talking about) naming another road car after a recent prototype race car is nonsense. Porsche aren't going to release an all-electric "919 E" road car.
Key difference being that a 718 Spyder was a lot closer to a road car and if I'm not mistaken were able to be made road legal, plus the similarities between new and old are evident enough for Porsche to name a new model after it. Unless Porsche are releasing a road legal version of the 919 Hybrid (which Kacher wasn't talking about) naming another road car after a recent prototype race car is nonsense. Porsche aren't going to release an all-electric "919 E" road car.