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Old 04-26-2022, 01:17 AM
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Hi everyone- just took delivery of a MY 2022 992 Turbo and was wondering if there is a way to permanently disable the auto start/stop function? I found the M-Engineering kit tuning kit allows for this as one of the features but not as a standalone re-programming. Curious to see if there are any other options. Thanks
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A few choices, if you drive in sport or sport plus (via turning the ****) that cancels the start/stop feature, if you want to call it a "feature" , you can also program the Ind/Personal **** position and turn the start/stop funtion off. Personally I only drive in sport or sport plus so for me it's not an issue, the car is boring in the "normal" mode JMO I have to see if it can be turned off via the Porsche service software, but most likely it can not, and yes it can be programmed out as well

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Turn the **** as soon as you start the car. Sport mode is the real "normal" mode. I turn it without even thinking now.
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I just need a review.....

Does Normal Mode soften or relax the suspension (as opposed to sport or sportplus) ?

Sport Mode stiffens it ?

add PDCC to do what ?

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Porsche Driving Modes Explained

  • Normal: The 'Normal' mode is the default driving mode that's ideal for commuting or more comfortable cruising. When selected, the throttle response is a little slower, and shifts happen sooner, the suspension is softer, sport exhaust valves will close, and start/stop stays active.
  • SPORT: The 'SPORT' mode is your perfect driving mode for more spirited drives through backroads or canyon passes. When selected, throttle response and shifts are sharper, the suspension is stiffer, sport exhaust valves will open, and dynamic engine mounts will engage.
  • SPORT+: The 'SPORT+' mode is your go-to driving mode for track days or simply experiencing all of the performance your Porsche has to offer. The throttle response is instantaneous, shifts are lightning fast, and the overall steering and suspension feel is tight and responsive.
  • Individual: The 'Individual' mode is for those who want to customize the various settings to their liking. If you want the 'Normal' soft suspension without losing the sharp shifts and throttle response you get with 'SPORT+,' or you want all of the comfortable 'Normal' settings but with the 'SPORT' exhaust noise, the 'Individual' setting is for you.
  • WET: The 'WET' driving mode, as the name implies, adjusts the vehicle's settings to help you drive better in the rain and adverse conditions.

SPORT Response Button

In addition to choosing your preferred driving mode, the mode selector **** on the steering wheel features a button in the middle that engages 'SPORT Response.' This feature primes the engine and transmission for a surge of power and responsiveness for 20 seconds. Press this button for maximum performance if you need to overtake someone and want a little boost.

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TECHNOLOGY EXPLAINED: PORSCHE DYNAMIC CHASSIS CONTROL

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When cornering, all cars roll towards their outside wheels. This means that the loads experienced by each tyre are no longer even, as the inside edge ‘goes light’.

In order to achieve a greater equilibrium between all four contact patches, Porsche has developed an electrohydraulic antiroll bar system, resulting in more responsive handling when driving your 911 on the limit.

Rather than using normal links between the dampers and the antiroll bar, PDCC uses hydraulically actuated cylinders to mechanically alter the load on both the front and rear antiroll bars.



Sensors connected to each damper measure the movement under both bump and rebound. These measurements are then used to determine how to load both antiroll bars.

At each corner of the car, the cylinders move in the opposite direction to the dampers (pushing the antiroll bar under bump, and pulling during rebound). This optimises the camber of each wheel, as well as ensuring that the ideal amount of load is transferred from wheel to wheel when turning the corner.

All of this results in a more direct turn in, while ensuring that the car feels more stable during cornering.

As part of our ‘Technology explained’ series, you can also find out how Porsche Carbon Ceramic Brakesimprove your stopping power, why Porsche Active Suspension Management improves stability, and what Porsche Traction Management really does.

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what control (if any) of the front and rear spoilers do you have in sport+ ?
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Originally Posted by RD16RR
what control (if any) of the front and rear spoilers do you have in sport+ ?

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Sport plus is fully extended front and rear spoilers, you can manually retract them thru the screen

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Thanks, super helpful!
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Keep in mind, if you just dont like the on-off feature, go into the menu system and edit ALL modes (sport, wet, normal, Sport plus) to NOT use this function (auto on/off). Then you dont have to mess with it again . It saves your settings. I was using the 'assignable button' to do the on-off disable, but when I realized I can permanently just set each mode to not use it, I just did that. No need for a tune, porsche allows for this 'disable' so you dont have to mess with it again.
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Originally Posted by ILL_SMO_Q
Keep in mind, if you just dont like the on-off feature, go into the menu system and edit ALL modes (sport, wet, normal, Sport plus) to NOT use this function (auto on/off). Then you dont have to mess with it again . It saves your settings. I was using the 'assignable button' to do the on-off disable, but when I realized I can permanently just set each mode to not use it, I just did that. No need for a tune, porsche allows for this 'disable' so you dont have to mess with it again.
did not know that - thanks !

falls in to the same category as the volume button is the computer system reset (depressing the center of the volume control reboots the computer system)
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Originally Posted by ILL_SMO_Q
Keep in mind, if you just dont like the on-off feature, go into the menu system and edit ALL modes (sport, wet, normal, Sport plus) to NOT use this function (auto on/off). Then you dont have to mess with it again . It saves your settings. I was using the 'assignable button' to do the on-off disable, but when I realized I can permanently just set each mode to not use it, I just did that. No need for a tune, porsche allows for this 'disable' so you dont have to mess with it again.
GOOD! Some do read the owner manual and know it is full of useful information!
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Originally Posted by Joan Alcover
GOOD! Some do read the owner manual and know it is full of useful information!
Honestly, its a long read lol, but I am about half way done with the book. But thats where I learned about the setting each mode feature! Along with the 'swipe below the front porsche badge (slowly) across the front facia and the FRUNK will pop open' I used that one often, and again, no idea the car did that, until I read it in the book.
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Originally Posted by ILL_SMO_Q
Honestly, its a long read lol, but I am about half way done with the book. But thats where I learned about the setting each mode feature! Along with the 'swipe below the front porsche badge (slowly) across the front facia and the FRUNK will pop open' I used that one often, and again, no idea the car did that, until I read it in the book.
Wash the car with the fob in your pocket, you will find it the most annoying feature on the car
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I have a feeling that we may be dealing with some slight differences in PCM functionality either between models or build dates. Hopefully this will be rectified with some sort of software update. I have a 2022 Carrera S with what I am almost sure to be PCM 6 and there is no way to change the setting in each mode nor does the owners manual outline how to do this. Perhaps I am completely missing something, but for example in the GTS you can turn on/off auto blip in each mode but NOT in the Carrera S.

ILL,
perhaps you can describe the exact menu you are accessing to do this? My car only seems to allow modification of the “individual” mode but not the others as they resort to the default on each startup.



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