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Old 01-14-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanLouis33
On my third Turbo (997, 991 and 992) I have been waiting for the PSE, and I find it a good improvement.

Let us not overlook the fact that (well, at least over here, in old Europe) the Guarantee becomes void as soon as you change your cats, or fit another exhaust. When you know the price of a new engine, it gives me food for thought !
That sucks!
Here in Canada, at least with my dealer, this isn't the case. I had my dealer install a Europipe system on my 991.2 Turbo S during the pre delivery setup. No push-back on warranty otherwise I'd certainly reconsider.
They have now offered to install 200 cell sport cats on my 992 during pre delivery, but unfortunately Soul Performance is unable to provide product for another 10 weeks.
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
That sucks!
Here in Canada, at least with my dealer, this isn't the case. I had my dealer install a Europipe system on my 991.2 Turbo S during the pre delivery setup. No push-back on warranty otherwise I'd certainly reconsider.
They have now offered to install 200 cell sport cats on my 992 during pre delivery, but unfortunately Soul Performance is unable to provide product for another 10 weeks.
We indeed have pretty good consumer protection laws in Canada. To refuse warranty coverage, the manufacturer has the burden to prove that the modification directly caused the failure it refuses to cover.
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
We indeed have pretty good consumer protection laws in Canada. To refuse warranty coverage, the manufacturer has the burden to prove that the modification directly caused the failure it refuses to cover.
It's all a bit confusing and varies from dealer to dealer.
This same dealer refused to order clear side markers for my 991.2 TTS due to a perceived liability. I ordered them from a TO dealer and my dealer reimbursed the cost and actually installed them...
They have changed their tune this time round. Clears were ordered and have been installed during PPF install.
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
It's all a bit confusing and varies from dealer to dealer.
This same dealer refused to order clear side markers for my 991.2 TTS due to a perceived liability. I ordered them from a TO dealer and my dealer reimbursed the cost and actually installed them...
They have changed their tune this time round. Clears were ordered and have been installed during PPF install.
It's not quite what I meant. Dealers are free to decline doing non-standard work such a modifications, especially if they make the car "illegal". What I meant is regarding warranty coverage, where it is more difficult for manufactures to deny warranty in Canada than in some other countries.
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
We indeed have pretty good consumer protection laws in Canada. To refuse warranty coverage, the manufacturer has the burden to prove that the modification directly caused the failure it refuses to cover.
Same here in the USA. Although that isn't to say that the employees of a dealership may not be familiar with the "Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act" (1975) and its requirements.
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For those of you looking for a bit more than the factory PSE system, our first prototype exhaust system is getting closer and closer to being ready! This system shown is for PSE and we are working on standard! Stay tuned for sound clips and more!!





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holy frijole...its an elegant design. did you keep valve functionality?
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Originally Posted by Pad Bender
holy frijole...its an elegant design. did you keep valve functionality?
Appears they remove the valves on this versions piped exhaust with stock cats either eliminated or reduced via 100 or 200 HJS cell = Loud(er) all the time.
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
That sucks!
Here in Canada, at least with my dealer, this isn't the case. I had my dealer install a Europipe system on my 991.2 Turbo S during the pre delivery setup. No push-back on warranty otherwise I'd certainly reconsider.
They have now offered to install 200 cell sport cats on my 992 during pre delivery, but unfortunately Soul Performance is unable to provide product for another 10 weeks.

1Gunner !!!!!
I am moving to Canada.... (although have you asked your insurers if they still cover you ? Another one of our problems).
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Originally Posted by JeanLouis33
1Gunner !!!!!
I am moving to Canada.... (although have you asked your insurers if they still cover you ? Another one of our problems).
Come on over! Quebec would welcome you with their version of Parlez-vous français!!

IMO as long as the Porsche dealer supports my changes I won't dig deeper looking for contrary views.
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Elegant, clean design GMG!
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Originally Posted by Pad Bender
holy frijole...its an elegant design. did you keep valve functionality?
Originally Posted by 1Gunner
Appears they remove the valves on this versions piped exhaust with stock cats either eliminated or reduced via 100 or 200 HJS cell = Loud(er) all the time.
This system is valveless. So far we're loving it. We'll have sound clips very soon! In-car and out!
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
That sucks!
Here in Canada, at least with my dealer, this isn't the case. I had my dealer install a Europipe system on my 991.2 Turbo S during the pre delivery setup. No push-back on warranty otherwise I'd certainly reconsider.
They have now offered to install 200 cell sport cats on my 992 during pre delivery, but unfortunately Soul Performance is unable to provide product for another 10 weeks.
dealers will do about anything to make a buck. Since your warranty comes from the manufacture ask your dealer to put in writing that this will have no issues with your warranty and if it does they will cover all claims.

Good luck LOL.
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Looks really good - will there be a version with the correct outputs for a non-sport exhaust version - quad square outlets?
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Originally Posted by Td33
dealers will do about anything to make a buck. Since your warranty comes from the manufacture ask your dealer to put in writing that this will have no issues with your warranty and if it does they will cover all claims.

Good luck LOL.
Unfortunate you would require additional reassurances from your dealer that exceed their word to rest easy, LOL.
I have had no issues. We have a small town relationship forged over 30 years where one's word is bond, which is more an exception than rule I realize.

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