Karl911

If 992Turbo S had MSC2s on it , lap time would have been 2.31min

RD16RR

Do you think if you owned the Mac or the Evo you’d do over 5000 miles a year ?

i was amused when the Ferrari SA started talking about doing no more than 3000 miles per year

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BuddyG

992 turbo S doesn’t look slow in that test! I have both of these cars, the F8 currently and my 992 turbo S cab should be here in the next couple months!

impex4

as advertised

ER911S

Props to Ferrari to be able to get their 2WD to launch this good. Was damn close in the 1/2 mile race considering the lighter higher hp horse.
As a reminder the Seyna did the 1/2 mile in 15.65 secs in Race 9.

DTup

Does anyone know when/if they will release a full ranking 1-8? I saw mustang second ....

L5Man

Does anyone have speculation on how the 992 TT would do compared to the 992 TTS?

rk-d

It will be interesting to see. The 991.2 TT made its power lower in the RPM range and over a wider range. Real world experience was similar between the cars. Looking at spec for the 992 - Peak power for the Turbo comes on lower at 2250 and extends out to 4500 RPM. TTS peak power is at 2500 and extends to 4000 RPM. So the TT powerband is a bit broader, which could level the playing field a bit, in terms of feel. Of course the hp delta between the TT and TTS is larger with the 992 gen than 991.2. Both have a bit narrower window compared to the 991.2.


I'd think that at 9/10 and above, the TTS will reveal itself. Hard to say how this translate to the street - there may not be a huge difference at legal speeds. That's if the the 991.2 is any guide. It's all magazine racing though - real world experience in comparing the cars is needed.

Mechanically, the two cars should be effectively identical, including the engine itself. PDCC will be an asset on the track, I assume. In fact, I wonder if the PDCC is what the MT reviewers were sensing when they commented on the lack of drama. This is standard on the TTS and optional on the TT and something that most Turbo owners won't spec.

PCCBs is a big advantage for the TTS and rarely spec'ed on a Turbo.

It will be interesting to hear about head to head comparos. Both are beasts.

PiB993

Listening to the remarks at the end of each cars lap I really would have thought the TTS would have won or the Ferrari. Going into turn 3 he had a brief understeer moment with the Ferrari I thought. IIRC the Ferrari had the highest top speed out of 2 down to 3 - looked bonkers. Also interesting the Mustang rang 107dbs!!! Buuuut the latest Huricans really are something. I was offered to drive a new one at a dealership recently - I passed for just a passenger ride. I don't get that with the GT/RS Porsche dealers That kind of treatment can lead to changes in brand loyalty. Oh well both are VW lines.

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Best Driver’s Car 2020: Final Finishing Order

WINNER: Lamborghini Huracán Evo
2: Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
3: Porsche 911 Turbo S
4: Porsche 718 Cayman GT4
5: Chevrolet Corvette Z51
6: Ferrari F8 Tributo
7: Porsche Cayenne Turbo Coupe

Karl911

One thing to notice, Porsche had 3 cars out of7!

sechsgang

I had originally thought the motors were almost the same, but it appears as if there are a few more differences as some of the tuning companies have found out...Id really like to know what they are. I think the 992TT in real world conditions will be stupid, stupid fast and on a fast drive, pretty sure the S will not be rocketing ahead at any real speed difference. On a highway pull at 100 mph is about all I'd expect to really see different TBH. The TT is easily the best "hyper" value pick of the 911 lineup if kept lean without question.

rodsky

I think this drivers car thing is a little silly. It sure is entertaining and judging by this thread - gets everyone up in arms. What I mean by that is that even if you compare a TTS and a GT3RS - which is the better drivers car. Most people would say that the RS is more "thrilling". But anybody who buys a 992 TTS could have also bought an RS. The point is that the TTS is very different and offers a very different "drivers" experience. For 95% of my use a TTS is "better". In fact when I had a Performante and my current TT - obviously the Performante was more of a "drivers" car. But I ended up barely using it after 2 years as it wasn't really usable except when I wanted to do an early morning canyon run etc. Rest of the time I drove the TT. The TT is comfortable, quiet, rides higher and is really really good at being somewhat comfortable and also extremely sporty. BUT there is a compromise and the Performante was more thrilling. Even in strada (quiet mode) you could hear me from 3 blocks away. One of the best sound tracks of any car - period. V10's do sound good - dont they. However, it gets old when you want to just to "not be loud". Other times, its amazing.

So I could see the Evo winning. It has an amazing NA V10 and is slightly more livable than a Performante. However, having now owned a TT - I think its the keeper and I will always strive to have one as the ultimate DD and swiss army knife. The TT's can also be spiced up a little with better sound and also modded to high HP levels. The new 992 has addressed some "shortfalls" with PSE and even SPASM (no need to lower / stiffen) and obviously 60HP over the 991.2. I think its the best at what it does - almost in a class of one. No need to get defensive over these reviews - worry about tires - just be secure in knowing that TT's are in a class of their own.

rk-d

Larger turbos maybe? I'd be surprised if the internals were meaningfully different. I'd be interested to know as well.

I agree 100% that at triple digits, the TTS is going to start walking the TT. Up to that point, I'm thinking it's really close. The few reviews I've seen allude to that. The TTS is going to get that last nth degree of performance and, of course, the halo. There is something to be said for that.

I tried to keep the price down on my TT, but failed. In the end, whether it's a TT or TTS, I'm going to want it a certain way. I'm never happy with a no options, vanilla build. I needed that blacked out, glossy look. But I'm satisfied that the delta between my TT build and an equivalent TTS is $25k.

I recently spent about that much upgrading/honing my 993 and had I not done that, I'd probably have ordered a TTS. I don't have regrets though - a properly sorted air cooled car is a perfect compliment to these modern spaceship cars (I'm sure you know that more than most with your awesome Singer) and I'm pretty stoked. I had every intention of keeping my 992 Carerra S for a bit until these Turbos came out. I knew I was a goner as soon as I saw the pics.

1st world problems. We are all very lucky, TT or TTS.