992.2 GT3RS
#47
Originally Posted by Mvez
There is no reason for Porsche not to squeeze out another 992.2 NA GT3RS, the gov. regs will allow it, especially if the 992.2 GT3 is right around the corner with their typical ".2" formula. They will sell NA GT3's until the very, very end.
Hoping next time around my name gets drawn out of the hat for an RS, at my local dealer "list". With 60+ 992.1 GT3RS's currently listed for sale on car gurus (at crazy prices, mind you), it's clear all the flippers are trying to make their money. That's more than all other generation RS's combined. Tells you all you need to know. Hopefully by the time the .2 comes around, alot of the hype will be gone and alot of actual buyers who intend to keep and USE the car as intended will get an allocation.
Hoping next time around my name gets drawn out of the hat for an RS, at my local dealer "list". With 60+ 992.1 GT3RS's currently listed for sale on car gurus (at crazy prices, mind you), it's clear all the flippers are trying to make their money. That's more than all other generation RS's combined. Tells you all you need to know. Hopefully by the time the .2 comes around, alot of the hype will be gone and alot of actual buyers who intend to keep and USE the car as intended will get an allocation.
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Bruce R (09-13-2024)
#48
I know people get excited by the prospect of a 4.2L engine, but let’s not forget that this only means 5% more power and torque (unless it is combined with some other technology improvements). 5% is only on the threshold of possibly being noticed when driving.
The only way to make a big improvement to engine output and remain purely NA is to keep the same cylinder dimensions and redline and add 2 more cylinders. This would result in a 5.33L Flat-8 with 33% more power and torque.
However, my personal preference would be to leave the engine alone and make the car smaller and lighter...
The only way to make a big improvement to engine output and remain purely NA is to keep the same cylinder dimensions and redline and add 2 more cylinders. This would result in a 5.33L Flat-8 with 33% more power and torque.
However, my personal preference would be to leave the engine alone and make the car smaller and lighter...
#51
Yes, at this level you pretty much can. If you increase cylinder size too much (large displacement increase without increasing number of cylinders), then you risk not being able to rev as high which reduces specific output. You can think of a proportional gain in torque and power as a best case scenario.
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#55
how many of the current 4.0l where built since the 991.1 GT3RS? (which where all somehow similar, all those 4.0l variants) i guess we are already above 50.000 even above 70.000 4.0l engines since the 991.1GT3RS.
4.2l development costs: 200Mio would be "just" 10.000 USD per engine (with 20.000 units). But within EU nobody knows what will happen after Euro 6a - so what will be legal after 1.1.2028 is not sure.
#56
a 4.2l could be again in 20.000 cars.
how many of the current 4.0l where built since the 991.1 GT3RS? (which where all somehow similar, all those 4.0l variants) i guess we are already above 50.000 even above 70.000 4.0l engines since the 991.1GT3RS.
4.2l development costs: 200Mio would be "just" 10.000 USD per engine (with 20.000 units). But within EU nobody knows what will happen after Euro 6a - so what will be legal after 1.1.2028 is not sure.
how many of the current 4.0l where built since the 991.1 GT3RS? (which where all somehow similar, all those 4.0l variants) i guess we are already above 50.000 even above 70.000 4.0l engines since the 991.1GT3RS.
4.2l development costs: 200Mio would be "just" 10.000 USD per engine (with 20.000 units). But within EU nobody knows what will happen after Euro 6a - so what will be legal after 1.1.2028 is not sure.
#57
I strongly believe its gonna be 4.2. They maxed everything out.
For the 994 GT3 it will be 3.6 10,000rpm 6xx HP hybrid.
Porsche needs to keep pushing to be on top.
If Ferrari, Lambo and Aston can keep making high displacement cars, Porsche can too, esp with all the EV cars rolling out.
Got inside info from a employee at Porsche the next GT cars will have a heavily reworked exhaust to be emission compliant. We are also seeing it on the test mules.
For the 994 GT3 it will be 3.6 10,000rpm 6xx HP hybrid.
Porsche needs to keep pushing to be on top.
If Ferrari, Lambo and Aston can keep making high displacement cars, Porsche can too, esp with all the EV cars rolling out.
Got inside info from a employee at Porsche the next GT cars will have a heavily reworked exhaust to be emission compliant. We are also seeing it on the test mules.
Last edited by bobodrink; 08-16-2024 at 12:09 PM.
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dros1 (08-16-2024)
#58
I strongly believe its gonna be 4.2. They maxed everything out.
For the 994 GT3 it will be 3.6 10,000rpm 6xx HP hybrid.
Porsche needs to keep pushing to be on top.
If Ferrari, Lambo and Aston can keep making high displacement cars, Porsche can too, esp with all the EV cars rolling out.
Got inside info from a employee at Porsche the next GT cars will have a heavily reworked exhaust to be emission compliant. We are also seeing it on the test mules.
For the 994 GT3 it will be 3.6 10,000rpm 6xx HP hybrid.
Porsche needs to keep pushing to be on top.
If Ferrari, Lambo and Aston can keep making high displacement cars, Porsche can too, esp with all the EV cars rolling out.
Got inside info from a employee at Porsche the next GT cars will have a heavily reworked exhaust to be emission compliant. We are also seeing it on the test mules.
Interesting to remember that a simple ecu tune and exhaust on the 4.0 will give 550hp and 510nm making the engine breathe and run better the way it is supposed to do with a much broader torque curve and powerband. They have to restrict it to pass emissions per Andreas P own words. Using the same principle with the 4.2 (if they use it) the numbers should be around 545hp and 505nm and with a tune and exhaust closer to 580hp and 535nm. The main benefit would also be the much more broader torque curve and power band.
Do we have info on when we can expect the announcement?
Last edited by dros1; 08-16-2024 at 12:31 PM.
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EMdoc (08-16-2024)
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