What Special GT Cars are Coming?
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Nobody said “a manual” can’t handle the power (the limit is actually torque, not power), but there is no current manual gearbox in the inventory that mates to the new generation of engines that has a high enough limit.
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From Spike's Car Radio -- a supposed "list" that Lieberman got while at Goodwood (and we all know his track records on leaks).
Nonetheless, it was shared by Spike and Jerry covering the following:
Nonetheless, it was shared by Spike and Jerry covering the following:
- 992.xxx - "Save your money." Announce mid-2025. Limited number, heritage design. Maybe just 500 units.
#318
Minus the super special editions on the list- it doesn’t seem that far fetched. I also believe that Porsche are constantly evaluating their line up and aren’t afraid to adjust. Wouldn’t be unreasonable for them to include / exclude certain models from this “current” plan.
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From Spike's Car Radio -- a supposed "list" that Lieberman got while at Goodwood (and we all know his track records on leaks).
Nonetheless, it was shared by Spike and Jerry covering the following:
Nonetheless, it was shared by Spike and Jerry covering the following:
- 992.1 regular 911s (base through GTS) - production ends August 2024.
- 992.1 Rennsport R - special one-off car with a 4.2L (no timeline)
- 992.2 GTS Hybrid - US production cars start late October 2024.
- 992.2 Turbo - widebody, no side inlets, no wing (ala Sport Classic), non-hybrid, RWD, maybe manual, 600-650hp. Announce October 2024.
- 992.2 Turbo S - hybrid, AWD, 700+hp. Announce October 2024.
- 992.2 GT2 - non-RS, hybrid, RWD, 750hp. Announce April 2025.
- 992.2 GT2RS - non-hybrid, lots of aero, RWD, 800+hp. Announce late 2025.
- 992.xxx - "Save your money." Announce mid-2025. Limited number, heritage design. Maybe just 500 units
- 992.2 Speedster - "expect to be an ST convertible." Announcement 2027.
- Mission X - Announcement 2025, 300-ish units.
- 918 Successor / 963-based road car - "Valkyrie-like", 963 units. 10k-rpm, v8 twin-turbo hybrid. Focus on taking the 'Ring time title again. 2025-2026.
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We are tired of the same ingredients different order of mixture in our food Porsche. None of these are “special”. Same old. You have to build a special car or two properly. Taking RWS off or lighter flywheel isnt special. Hope you guys don’t suddenly remove PASM and then call that special. Before you know it we’ll have a car without double wishbone homage to 991.2 GT3 and call that special.
I hope you guys fine a way to make that laggy tachometer perform properly. You can study Corvette’s Z06 dash or Mclaren 750S to see how a proper digital dash performs. Your current dash feels like it came from a BMW 5 series 10 years ago. There is no way it wont be annoying with the ITB flat6 NA engine.
We dont want to hear “we had to kill the NA engine because dash couldnt keep up with its low inertia”. Just saying, sometimes you guys say the craziest things.
I hope you guys fine a way to make that laggy tachometer perform properly. You can study Corvette’s Z06 dash or Mclaren 750S to see how a proper digital dash performs. Your current dash feels like it came from a BMW 5 series 10 years ago. There is no way it wont be annoying with the ITB flat6 NA engine.
We dont want to hear “we had to kill the NA engine because dash couldnt keep up with its low inertia”. Just saying, sometimes you guys say the craziest things.
Last edited by 3-Pedals; 09-18-2024 at 09:39 AM.
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We are tired of the same ingredients different order of mixture in our food Porsche. None of these are “special”. Same old. You have to build a special car or two properly. Taking RWS off or lighter flywheel isnt special. Hope you guys don’t suddenly remove PASM and then call that special. Before you know it we’ll have a car without double wishbone homage to 991.2 GT3 and call that special.
I hope you guys fine a way to make that laggy tachometer perform properly. You can study Corvette’s Z06 dash or Mclaren 750S to see how a proper digital dash performs. Your current dash feels like it came from a BMW 5 series 10 years ago. There is no way it wont be annoying with the ITB flat6 NA engine.
We dont want to hear “we had to kill the NA engine because dash couldnt keep up with its low inertia”. Just saying, sometimes you guys say the craziest things.
I hope you guys fine a way to make that laggy tachometer perform properly. You can study Corvette’s Z06 dash or Mclaren 750S to see how a proper digital dash performs. Your current dash feels like it came from a BMW 5 series 10 years ago. There is no way it wont be annoying with the ITB flat6 NA engine.
We dont want to hear “we had to kill the NA engine because dash couldnt keep up with its low inertia”. Just saying, sometimes you guys say the craziest things.
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#324
The company’s broader direction is concerning. VW board of directors need to stay out of Porsche’s business, at least in 911 and Cayman. I am extremely concerned that in a body style or two, the car will be unrecognizeable (not its body shape). I still cannot believe they have approved that start stop button and the laggy dash. Its clear AP’s team doesnt control the broader company direction. If it was up to them, things would have been different.
Things didnt quite work out at Boeing when engineers were driven out of the senior roles and were replaced with marketing/economics major executives.
BMW has done a similar shift back in 2010. It was when their head of the M/// division (Albert something) got frustrated and quit after 23 years I realized company was taken over and the end result is here with massive screens and plastic everywhere and no more bespoke M engines.
Porsche might be doing this act more elegantly and behind the scenes but they are doing it nevertheless. I think if enough people complain, they might listen (i.e manual transmission reversal of 991 gen).
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We are tired of the same ingredients different order of mixture in our food Porsche. None of these are “special”. Same old. You have to build a special car or two properly. Taking RWS off or lighter flywheel isnt special. Hope you guys don’t suddenly remove PASM and then call that special. Before you know it we’ll have a car without double wishbone homage to 991.2 GT3 and call that special.
I hope you guys fine a way to make that laggy tachometer perform properly. You can study Corvette’s Z06 dash or Mclaren 750S to see how a proper digital dash performs. Your current dash feels like it came from a BMW 5 series 10 years ago. There is no way it wont be annoying with the ITB flat6 NA engine.
We dont want to hear “we had to kill the NA engine because dash couldnt keep up with its low inertia”. Just saying, sometimes you guys say the craziest things.
I hope you guys fine a way to make that laggy tachometer perform properly. You can study Corvette’s Z06 dash or Mclaren 750S to see how a proper digital dash performs. Your current dash feels like it came from a BMW 5 series 10 years ago. There is no way it wont be annoying with the ITB flat6 NA engine.
We dont want to hear “we had to kill the NA engine because dash couldnt keep up with its low inertia”. Just saying, sometimes you guys say the craziest things.
And more modern / digital isn't always better... many examples to choose from... and again it's subjective / personal
#326
- 4.2 liter
- shorter gears
- back seats in a GT3 engine
- keep analog tach
- gt3rs with a hybrid but no turbos
- a proper gt2 with a manual transmission, power of current ice tts, rwd only (like 997 GT2)
I think a GT3 with backseats, shorter gears would sell like hotcakes. Keep the lwfw for the speedster edition.
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This is why they're developing the full gorilla glass upper section- so you can see the bottom of your spare fuel jugs whilst jumping dunes. watercooling the a-pillars and the koenigsegg manual gated sequential will make the GT2RS Dakar Cab the best way to see Dubai's Dunes
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