pitt911

I seriously doubt that
Covid car market is over except for few models including GT cars , but these are also drifting back to normal at a slow pace
so by the time 992.2 GT3 is released , I think ADM will be much lower on GT3 , even now they are lower on GT3RS which usually fetched more ADM that a GT3

PTS

Check the market. My buddy is actively shopping 992 C2S and they are still at sticker or near sticker even a couple years old with 5-10k miles.

PTS

There are still 992.1 Touring allocations selling for $75k over today...why would 992.2 Tourings be cheaper?

Falcon01

Absolutely, if you have the means and mindset to pay ADM to get the car way earlier, it's the way to go. I'm too cheap to do that personally, although looking back, I wish I had on certain cars (C8 Corvette and Bronco come to mind) to get them 2 years earlier than when my allocation finally came up, where the ADM would've been what roughly the price increase was over those few years. SMH

They made money on both cars. The C2 took a few weeks to sell, like 5 weeks. They had it listed for $144k and sold it for low $140s. The C2S sold in a few days, like 3 days. I was actually a bit shocked as to how quick it sold, but it was a beautiful spec (IMO), also helped it was the 7MT which you can't buy a new one anymore, so mine was one of the newest 911's with a stick you can buy. It was listed for $178 or $179k and sold for $175k to 176k. Both cars did have PPF and tint. Both cars sold over original MSRP and over what I paid for them. Both cars did get certified and needed no work from the dealers end.

It's fine if you don't believe me. You can check you local dealers to see what they're selling them for. If you do find one that is selling a less than 1 year old 911 for $20k under MSRP, please PM as I would like to replace my C2S, maybe with a vert or targa for daily driving at that price point

Exactly, my dealer sells new for MSRP typically (maybe on an ST or 3RS they would markup), but sells for over MSRP or market value on used. They also certify the cars which adds the 2 year unlimited mileage warranty after the factory warranty (which still have over 3 years and ~45k miles left) is up.

That's not true at all. Go look on BaT and see what they're actually going for. Even the 4 year old ones are only now selling for a slight discount off of sticker. Less than 1 year old 911's with nice builds (which both of mine were) sell for over MSRP all day long. I could've likely gotten $180k on my C2S and $140-145k on the C2 if I sold it myself on BaT.

Yup, exactly. BaT is a great tool for this, as you can see historicals and what is actually selling vs not selling and for how much.

Falcon01

Ahhh. I just realized you live in Germany, versus I'm in the US. That explains the difference as the new ones here in the US go for over sticker at some dealers and are very difficult to get an allocation for (1-2 years for a C2/C2S unless you get lucky) so people are willing to pay over MSRP for one right now whether it's new or slightly used.

I know the market is very different in Europe (and even Canada has much lower markups/prices).

pitt911

because market is correcting slowly , and we are talking roughly a year from now
so you think the market on GT cars will be hot forever !

ScratchTheItch

There were mark-ups on GT cars in the years before COVID. There will be mark-ups in the years after. People seem to forget that while COVID inflated most car prices, GT cars were "hot" well before.

PTS

No I do not. But it is still hot currently, and is always hottest when a new GT product arrives. You are mistaken if you think 992.2 GT3 ADMs will be lower next year than a 992.1 GT3 is now (it's 3 years old and a new model is about to replace it...and they're still getting $50-75k over).

Shogunade

My forecast as well. .1s are gonna rip when they drop the bomb that .2 GT cars will be hybrid. 😁

RUF RS

Everyone on RL reports minimal ADM.... . Meaningless info

usctrojanGT3

It'll also be interesting how much Porsche bumps the .2GT3 base price...will it be around $10k or will they go $20k or more. I expecting at least a $15k bump in price along with increase in the cost of options, including PTS. The speculation that the .2GT3 will be the last ICE manual car may also drive the ADMs.

dontlookback

do dealers still have 992.1 touring allocation build slots in US?


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GTS2022

I doubt it will be hybrid
That’s the spy shot almost a year ago. Shows 9k rpm digital tachometer. Don’t see a yellow hybrid sticker either.

Drifting

today I heard from my dealer that the 992.2 GT3 would be announced in roughly one month.

ScratchTheItch

The two existing 992.2 GT3 threads have good information (not sure we really needed this third thread, but alas...) and line up with that timing.

Most folks in the know seem to have heard Fall announcement (Oct but could be sooner) with orders opening for spring/summer 25' delivery. Those "in the know" being dealers and people with close relationships. The problem with forum information is it generally comes from three types of sources, and people generally don't share which bucket their "information" is coming from:

1) People actually in the know (dealers, people with OEM relationships)
2) People that just read some article or watched some video and repeat mostly inaccurate info
3) People that are sharing their opinion based on nothing (like the folks in this thread saying it is turbo or hybrid) but fail to mention they are purely guessing.

It's really hard to differentiate between what is what across those three online hence why I give less and less credibility to forums.