S/T Suspension Programming - GT3 update??
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A few things:
first off the ride of the ST is not soft, far from it. It simply seems more compliant in that pavement imperfections don’t upset the balance as much as 992 GT3, it’s just much better tuned for street driving. Personally I don’t have any desire to take pain meds after a weekend backroads drive because the car is so stiff. No thanks. At times I spent 8-10 hours in the ST driving in the Alps and never once felt it was too brutal, not soft but more compliant, hence the point of the car.
Second, it’s been noted before that Porsche might have been already adjusting the shock settings on recent Tourings due to complaints of the ride being far from docile for a car that is supposedly made for the purposes of Touring. So for those getting later builds perhaps some changes have already happened. Would be interesting to drive 22 vs 24 and see.
first off the ride of the ST is not soft, far from it. It simply seems more compliant in that pavement imperfections don’t upset the balance as much as 992 GT3, it’s just much better tuned for street driving. Personally I don’t have any desire to take pain meds after a weekend backroads drive because the car is so stiff. No thanks. At times I spent 8-10 hours in the ST driving in the Alps and never once felt it was too brutal, not soft but more compliant, hence the point of the car.
Second, it’s been noted before that Porsche might have been already adjusting the shock settings on recent Tourings due to complaints of the ride being far from docile for a car that is supposedly made for the purposes of Touring. So for those getting later builds perhaps some changes have already happened. Would be interesting to drive 22 vs 24 and see.
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A few things:
first off the ride of the ST is not soft, far from it. It simply seems more compliant in that pavement imperfections don’t upset the balance as much as 992 GT3, it’s just much better tuned for street driving. Personally I don’t have any desire to take pain meds after a weekend backroads drive because the car is so stiff. No thanks. At times I spent 8-10 hours in the ST driving in the Alps and never once felt it was too brutal, not soft but more compliant, hence the point of the car.
Second, it’s been noted before that Porsche might have been already adjusting the shock settings on recent Tourings due to complaints of the ride being far from docile for a car that is supposedly made for the purposes of Touring. So for those getting later builds perhaps some changes have already happened. Would be interesting to drive 22 vs 24 and see.
first off the ride of the ST is not soft, far from it. It simply seems more compliant in that pavement imperfections don’t upset the balance as much as 992 GT3, it’s just much better tuned for street driving. Personally I don’t have any desire to take pain meds after a weekend backroads drive because the car is so stiff. No thanks. At times I spent 8-10 hours in the ST driving in the Alps and never once felt it was too brutal, not soft but more compliant, hence the point of the car.
Second, it’s been noted before that Porsche might have been already adjusting the shock settings on recent Tourings due to complaints of the ride being far from docile for a car that is supposedly made for the purposes of Touring. So for those getting later builds perhaps some changes have already happened. Would be interesting to drive 22 vs 24 and see.
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I have pirellis on mine
im not sure it s a stiff ride, such that i would call it chattering. Someone on the board described it as porpoising which I thought was spot on. It’s the motion sickness I get from the bounce..I get it’s stiff..
im not sure it s a stiff ride, such that i would call it chattering. Someone on the board described it as porpoising which I thought was spot on. It’s the motion sickness I get from the bounce..I get it’s stiff..
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Have just gone through running in period in the S/T. Ride is pretty much perfect. It’s firm but has a lovely compliance. I did the best part of 400kms today on A/B roads and it was as good as it gets.
Mine is on Pirelli’s which I have virtually no complaints about but maybe robbing the car of a bit of steering feel.
ps it’s a fckn savage!!
pps spoke to Center gravity during the week about setup and they said they have had the first new gt3 through with markedly improved ride than previous cars..
Mine is on Pirelli’s which I have virtually no complaints about but maybe robbing the car of a bit of steering feel.
ps it’s a fckn savage!!
pps spoke to Center gravity during the week about setup and they said they have had the first new gt3 through with markedly improved ride than previous cars..
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It is odd I feel like my 992 ride significantly improved as it broke in and also with the addition of the Manthey alignment / ride height tweaks. I am pretty happy with it.
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Have just gone through running in period in the S/T. Ride is pretty much perfect. It’s firm but has a lovely compliance. I did the best part of 400kms today on A/B roads and it was as good as it gets.
Mine is on Pirelli’s which I have virtually no complaints about but maybe robbing the car of a bit of steering feel.
ps it’s a fckn savage!!
pps spoke to Center gravity during the week about setup and they said they have had the first new gt3 through with markedly improved ride than previous cars..
Mine is on Pirelli’s which I have virtually no complaints about but maybe robbing the car of a bit of steering feel.
ps it’s a fckn savage!!
pps spoke to Center gravity during the week about setup and they said they have had the first new gt3 through with markedly improved ride than previous cars..
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My 23 Touring was literally perfect to me as a sports car for the road... and I prefer it to my current 991 Touring to boot. I'm not sure If Id want the 992 any different, granted I've got an ST coming as well so will be curious to compare.
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I received my Touring recently (6 weeks ago) and it is as described by many, not very compliant. I still love it but it would be my first mod if I had access to a proven solution.
I doubt Porsche changed anything between 22-24.
I also agree with most here, suspension tuning could benefit from more compliance and less rebound. My race car's suspension is softer & compliant, swallows turtle like they dont exist and feel more planted than my Touring.
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I doubt Porsche changed anything between 22-24.
I also agree with most here, suspension tuning could benefit from more compliance and less rebound. My race car's suspension is softer & compliant, swallows turtle like they dont exist and feel more planted than my Touring.
My 0.02
A few things:
first off the ride of the ST is not soft, far from it. It simply seems more compliant in that pavement imperfections don’t upset the balance as much as 992 GT3, it’s just much better tuned for street driving. Personally I don’t have any desire to take pain meds after a weekend backroads drive because the car is so stiff. No thanks. At times I spent 8-10 hours in the ST driving in the Alps and never once felt it was too brutal, not soft but more compliant, hence the point of the car.
Second, it’s been noted before that Porsche might have been already adjusting the shock settings on recent Tourings due to complaints of the ride being far from docile for a car that is supposedly made for the purposes of Touring. So for those getting later builds perhaps some changes have already happened. Would be interesting to drive 22 vs 24 and see.
first off the ride of the ST is not soft, far from it. It simply seems more compliant in that pavement imperfections don’t upset the balance as much as 992 GT3, it’s just much better tuned for street driving. Personally I don’t have any desire to take pain meds after a weekend backroads drive because the car is so stiff. No thanks. At times I spent 8-10 hours in the ST driving in the Alps and never once felt it was too brutal, not soft but more compliant, hence the point of the car.
Second, it’s been noted before that Porsche might have been already adjusting the shock settings on recent Tourings due to complaints of the ride being far from docile for a car that is supposedly made for the purposes of Touring. So for those getting later builds perhaps some changes have already happened. Would be interesting to drive 22 vs 24 and see.
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It's surprising and very puzzling that Porsche would put vastly inferior programming in its prime money-making and brand-representing product when it can use something "vastly superior" at absolutely no cost to them. I wonder how much of it is just confirmation bias.
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The GT3 suspension settings are very good, if not GREAT. . . but I think Porsche just learned from their experience with the GT3, and made some minor tweaks to the S/T that resulted in better dampening. We shall see if we are successful in programming the S/T settings into the GT3.
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I just picked up my Spyder RS last night and drove it 25 miles today. If they can take the same suspension as the GT4RS and make it this good...they should be able to make the GT3 this good..its really really good
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The GT3 suspension settings are very good, if not GREAT. . . but I think Porsche just learned from their experience with the GT3, and made some minor tweaks to the S/T that resulted in better dampening. We shall see if we are successful in programming the S/T settings into the GT3.
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My service advisor today told me it simply comes down to software programming and the rate at which the oil moves through the dampener.