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Old 04-19-2024, 10:27 AM
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Hi yall, i wanted everyone's opinion on whether or not to buy a gt3 thats been used on the track mainly. Its fully ppf protected so the paint is in immaculate condition.

Will be buying from porsche dealer, with new service done and of course 1 year approved warranty, tires also new.

I won't be using it on the track at all, regular daily, also the car is equipped with pccb

Thnx for the advice

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04-19-2024, 12:08 PM
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Nothing wrong with buying a track used GT3.
Take a look at the underbody, if there are any damages and/or major scrapes. And the brake discs of course.
Other then that, you're good to go.
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Exactly, no worries cars are very durable and track use is not a concern, I would check the DME if a Manual gearbox for any over revs and price accordingly
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. While I am not in your position trying to make a call on buying car which has been on track a lot, here is what I would say given the majority of miles on my GT3 are on track.

it depends on how well taken care of the car was. For example I am pretty detailed about my oil and brake maintenance. So one factor to consider is does rhe dealer know the history well.

the other factor is was the car tracked with the PCCB. I do so but many other swap out to steel disk. If he ran the PCCB on track the rotors will go in about 1500 track miles (depends a lot on the driver). Changing those costs gobs of money. Bottom line have them weigh he rotor and give you life time estimates

Another factor is total track miles. Porsche reccomends a complete engine rebuild at 10,000. Understanding where you are on the cycle would help ypu male the decision.

in summary I would say there is nothing fundamentally wrong with buying a track car as long you account for the wear and tear. I have 4500 track miles on mine and the car has been absolutely bullet proof.

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Originally Posted by race7117
Exactly, no worries cars are very durable and track use is not a concern, I would check the DME if a Manual gearbox for any over revs and price accordingly
Its has the pdk.. i assume porsche standards are high, so 1 can assume with new service new approved and new 111 points check there wont be any hidden problems or costs

Complete engine rebuild at 10k miles, that sounds a bit extreme ?



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I would not buy a heavily tracked GT3, but that's just me.
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Originally Posted by SESHA
. While I am not in your position trying to make a call on buying car which has been on track a lot, here is what I would say given the majority of miles on my GT3 are on track.

it depends on how well taken care of the car was. For example I am pretty detailed about my oil and brake maintenance. So one factor to consider is does rhe dealer know the history well.

the other factor is was the car tracked with the PCCB. I do so but many other swap out to steel disk. If he ran the PCCB on track the rotors will go in about 1500 track miles (depends a lot on the driver). Changing those costs gobs of money. Bottom line have them weigh he rotor and give you life time estimates

Another factor is total track miles. Porsche reccomends a complete engine rebuild at 10,000. Understanding where you are on the cycle would help ypu male the decision.

in summary I would say there is nothing fundamentally wrong with buying a track car as long you account for the wear and tear. I have 4500 track miles on mine and the car has been absolutely bullet proof.

sesha
Where is the 10k engine rebuild recommendation? Are you talking about cup cars?
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Originally Posted by rk-d
I would not buy a heavily tracked GT3, but that's just me.

how long do the tires hold on track days.. the car now has its 6th set of tires. Im guessing 1000 miles average on track
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Well maintained is always a good plan for purchase, never heard of the 10,000 mile rebuild, I believe thats only in older cup cars at 50 hours, 100 hours for the 992 cup. My last '18 GT3 Manual was purchased with 17,000 miles and driven another 5000 without issue and felt better than new as it was well broken in. No over revs and with PDK should not be a problem.
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Originally Posted by SESHA
Another factor is total track miles. Porsche reccomends a complete engine rebuild at 10,000.
There is no such recommendation for a GT3 street car. There is a 100 hour engine analysis recommended for a Cup car that is raced. I suppose you could calculate 10,000 miles if the average speed was 100 mph for all miles traveled (very difficult to achieve when including warm-up and cool-down laps and other miles where not at 10/10ths) and 100% of miles were on track full-out.

Most trackday cars do not spend 100% of their time on track (are not trailered there and never driven on street), are not run as hard as a Cup car when on track (most don't use Slicks and are only driven at a recreational level), etc. So the mileage would have to be Far higher before concern.

I guess this is one reason that the Porsche warranty extends to 50,000 miles (only excluding Slick tires when on track) and there is rarely an engine claim (even when looking back at the prior generation, 991.2 with lots of track miles).

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Originally Posted by GrantG
There is no such recommendation for a GT3 street car. There is a 100 hour engine analysis recommended for a Cup car that is raced. I suppose you could calculate 10,000 miles if the average speed was 100 mph for all miles traveled (very difficult to achieve when including warm-up and cool-down laps and other miles where not at 10/10ths) and 100% of miles were on track full-out.

Most trackday cars do not spend 100% of their time on track (are not trailered there and never driven on street), are not run as hard as a Cup car when on track (most don't use Slicks and are only driven at a recreational level), etc. So the mileage would have to be Far higher before concern.

I guess this is one reason that the Porsche warranty extends to 50,000 miles (only excluding Slick tires when on track) and there is rarely an engine claim (even when looking back at the prior generation, 991.2 with lots of track miles).
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On the 10K rebuild I should have been more clear. I think k what everyone corrected me on not being a Porsche reccomendarion is absolutely correct. The 10K is what shops that maintain GT cars locally are reccomending. And I absolutely agree on the caveats on time...20min sessions vs staying out for an hour makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by nas 83
Hi yall, i wanted everyone's opinion on whether or not to buy a gt3 thats been used on the track mainly. Its fully ppf protected so the paint is in immaculate condition.

Will be buying from porsche dealer, with new service done and of course 1 year approved warranty, tires also new.

I won't be using it on the track at all, regular daily, also the car is equipped with pccb

Thnx for the advice
If they would sell it via CPO, then you know it’s good.
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Originally Posted by SESHA
On the 10K rebuild I should have been more clear. I think k what everyone corrected me on not being a Porsche reccomendarion is absolutely correct. The 10K is what shops that maintain GT cars locally are reccomending. And I absolutely agree on the caveats on time...20min sessions vs staying out for an hour makes a difference.
Maybe doing a leak-down test after 10k track miles makes sense. But I’d expect most cars would look good there and be approved for additional track time (assuming careful maintenance).


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