GT3 Touring Production Numbers
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usctrojanGT3 (04-03-2024)
#48
not interesting to me. The 992 is such a better car to drive. We are 3 years into production and ADM is still $50k+… that was not the case with 991.2. (And that’s with a huge MSRP increase since 2022.) there’s a ton of demand.
The 991.2 is a great car and owners have benefitted immensely by Porsche continue to increase MSRP of 992… currently, a base 2024 GT3 is $40k+ more than a base 2019 GT3 MSRP for example.
Porsche also made the 992 touring a bit more unique with it being a separate allocation, styling tweaks, textured dash leather and availability of EM leather vs. just a wing delete package.
The 991.2 is a great car and owners have benefitted immensely by Porsche continue to increase MSRP of 992… currently, a base 2024 GT3 is $40k+ more than a base 2019 GT3 MSRP for example.
Porsche also made the 992 touring a bit more unique with it being a separate allocation, styling tweaks, textured dash leather and availability of EM leather vs. just a wing delete package.
#49
I’ve talked with @Spyder718 & I believe he is being honest about his numbers. Even though he could easily skim some numbers off the top or state there are more Tourings than there really are. No one else has put in the time to do the work.
TBH I don't understand the point of this thread at all
Last edited by PTS; 04-03-2024 at 08:48 AM.
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#50
Drifting
not interesting to me. The 992 is such a better car to drive. We are 3 years into production and ADM is still $50k+… that was not the case with 991.2. (And that’s with a huge MSRP increase since 2022.) there’s a ton of demand.
The 991.2 is a great car and owners have benefitted immensely by Porsche continue to increase MSRP of 992… currently, a base 2024 GT3 is $40k+ more than a base 2019 GT3 MSRP for example.
Porsche also made the 992 touring a bit more unique with it being a separate allocation, styling tweaks, textured dash leather and availability of EM leather vs. just a wing delete package.
The 991.2 is a great car and owners have benefitted immensely by Porsche continue to increase MSRP of 992… currently, a base 2024 GT3 is $40k+ more than a base 2019 GT3 MSRP for example.
Porsche also made the 992 touring a bit more unique with it being a separate allocation, styling tweaks, textured dash leather and availability of EM leather vs. just a wing delete package.
The 991.2 Touring is no more a "wing delete" than the 992 Touring. The 991.2 Touring had leather (instead of Alcantara), different seat inserts, a different air intake and different center lock caps (the Porsche shield versus "GT3" on the winged variant). Oh, and the 991.2 Touring was only available in a manual, versus the 992 Touring which, like the winged GT3, is available in both PDK and manual.
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Bruce911_ (04-03-2024)
#51
Burning Brakes
Seems like you are trying to justify your prior responses to me stating that the the 991 Touring was made in greater numbers than the 992. That’s okay you don’t have to admit you were wrong. Yes the 992 is a great and special car. I agree with you. And frankly I don’t care what interests you. Enjoy your car.
#52
Burning Brakes
The 991.2 GT3 Touring is appreciating in value. That is proven, time and again, when the cars are sold for $50+ over MSRP. Whether a 5 or 6-year-old 992.1 Touring will do the same remains to be seen.
The 991.2 Touring is no more a "wing delete" than the 992 Touring. The 991.2 Touring had leather (instead of Alcantara), different seat inserts, a different air intake and different center lock caps (the Porsche shield versus "GT3" on the winged variant). Oh, and the 991.2 Touring was only available in a manual, versus the 992 Touring which, like the winged GT3, is available in both PDK and manual.
The 991.2 Touring is no more a "wing delete" than the 992 Touring. The 991.2 Touring had leather (instead of Alcantara), different seat inserts, a different air intake and different center lock caps (the Porsche shield versus "GT3" on the winged variant). Oh, and the 991.2 Touring was only available in a manual, versus the 992 Touring which, like the winged GT3, is available in both PDK and manual.
#53
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992 stickers are about 20-50k higher then factor in adm. It’s not apples to apples.
If they made twice the amount of 992 than the 991.2 and they are selling today for 70k over for a 24 with a 240k sticker then clearly demand is higher for that car.
Wait till s/t’s start trading at 600 and up. 80k over a 992 will feel like a bargain.
But, but they only made 700 991.2’s so it’s rarer. WHO CARES
If they made twice the amount of 992 than the 991.2 and they are selling today for 70k over for a 24 with a 240k sticker then clearly demand is higher for that car.
Wait till s/t’s start trading at 600 and up. 80k over a 992 will feel like a bargain.
But, but they only made 700 991.2’s so it’s rarer. WHO CARES
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DodoBrd (04-03-2024)
#54
Burning Brakes
exactly, unless it's a numbered car (excluding Ferrari), only Porsche knows the actual numbers. And frankly who cares.... guys spending too much time constantly obsessing on RL that their mass produced GT cars are 'rare' and 'appreciating' and not enough time driving are missing the point of these cars.
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#55
992 stickers are about a 20-50k higher then factor in adm. It’s not apples to apples.
If they made twice the amount of 992 than the 991.2 and they are selling today for 70k over for a 24 with a 240k sticker then clearly demand is higher for that car.
Wait till s/t’s start trading at 600 and up. 80k over a 992 will feel like a bargain.
But, but they only made 700 991.2’s so it’s rarer. WHO CARES
If they made twice the amount of 992 than the 991.2 and they are selling today for 70k over for a 24 with a 240k sticker then clearly demand is higher for that car.
Wait till s/t’s start trading at 600 and up. 80k over a 992 will feel like a bargain.
But, but they only made 700 991.2’s so it’s rarer. WHO CARES
This 992 vs 991.2 thing is a little tiresome. The Touring is within range (maybe $10-20k depending on mileage/spec) of the 992 GT3 and that is partly a function of its relative rarity. Conversely, the winged 991.2 GT3 is substantially less expensive than a 992 - probably pushing $70-80k at this point.
Does any of that have to do with how the car drives? Nope. Do I personally care? Nope. Though I do hope it keeps the value of the Touring stable should I decide to trade it in on a 992.
For the market at large, the number of cars produced does have a real impact on relative value, that's not rocket science. That dynamic will obviously translate to winged/Touring 992.
From what I've seen, the 992 Tourings seem to be selling about $20k more than similar build winged cars. Just a spitball estimate.
#56
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-69/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-76/
I’ve seen a few Albert Blue Tourings. The winged Light Ivory might be 1 of 1.
Let’s see if these two sell within $20k of eachother.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-76/
I’ve seen a few Albert Blue Tourings. The winged Light Ivory might be 1 of 1.
Let’s see if these two sell within $20k of eachother.
#57
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Demand is always higher for the newer car.
This 992 vs 991.2 thing is a little tiresome. The Touring is within range (maybe $10-20k depending on mileage/spec) of the 992 GT3 and that is partly a function of its relative rarity. Conversely, the winged 991.2 GT3 is substantially less expensive than a 992 - probably pushing $70-80k at this point.
Does any of that have to do with how the car drives? Nope. Do I personally care? Nope. Though I do hope it keeps the value of the Touring stable should I decide to trade it in on a 992.
For the market at large, the number of cars produced does have a real impact on relative value, that's not rocket science. That dynamic will obviously translate to winged/Touring 992.
From what I've seen, the 992 Tourings seem to be selling about $20k more than similar build winged cars. Just a spitball estimate.
This 992 vs 991.2 thing is a little tiresome. The Touring is within range (maybe $10-20k depending on mileage/spec) of the 992 GT3 and that is partly a function of its relative rarity. Conversely, the winged 991.2 GT3 is substantially less expensive than a 992 - probably pushing $70-80k at this point.
Does any of that have to do with how the car drives? Nope. Do I personally care? Nope. Though I do hope it keeps the value of the Touring stable should I decide to trade it in on a 992.
For the market at large, the number of cars produced does have a real impact on relative value, that's not rocket science. That dynamic will obviously translate to winged/Touring 992.
From what I've seen, the 992 Tourings seem to be selling about $20k more than similar build winged cars. Just a spitball estimate.
#58
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-69/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-76/
I’ve seen a few Albert Blue Tourings. The winged Light Ivory might be 1 of 1.
Let’s see if these two sell within $20k of eachother.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-76/
I’ve seen a few Albert Blue Tourings. The winged Light Ivory might be 1 of 1.
Let’s see if these two sell within $20k of eachother.
That Albert is spicy!
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Tombstone4478 (04-03-2024)
#59
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-69/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-76/
I’ve seen a few Albert Blue Tourings. The winged Light Ivory might be 1 of 1.
Let’s see if these two sell within $20k of eachother.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-76/
I’ve seen a few Albert Blue Tourings. The winged Light Ivory might be 1 of 1.
Let’s see if these two sell within $20k of eachother.
Personally, I love Albert Blue. One of my favorite PTS colors, though I wish this car had silver wheels.
#60
Seems like you are trying to justify your prior responses to me stating that the the 991 Touring was made in greater numbers than the 992. That’s okay you don’t have to admit you were wrong. Yes the 992 is a great and special car. I agree with you. And frankly I don’t care what interests you. Enjoy your car.. And don’t get emotional again like you did last time.
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DodoBrd (04-03-2024)