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Old 10-22-2023, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
In the US, I believe a new one installed is about 60k.
I would probably take it to shark werks or something before I put another stocker in there. The stage 20 over rev would be a lot to explain on the DME report.
Old 10-22-2023, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Angryinch
The car would still have power, a fuse blew, check your fuses.

Not sure if I would try to start it. I would try turn it over by hand, remove spark plugs and check them, drop oil and check, drop filter and cut open.

Sorry that happened, I feel your pain in the video. The engine might be OK. Depends what the valve springs are good for? RPM wise, if a valve didn’t float.

Thats weird the trunk wouldn’t open, you must have not hit the right contact with 12v, that’s direct power to the trunk mechanism.

Maybe the ECU has a protection mode that kills power to the vehicle but I doubt it. Sounds like a fuse blew or something fried, electrical wise.
A total loss of power like this would not be a single fuse in the fuse block. It’s most likely the battery is in protection mode. The new batts in the Porsches will also do this when they get low.

Also very unlikely anything “fried.” This was a mechanical overrev. Most likely the valves are bent up and many codes tripped. Possible that the cam is messed up too.

Not sure how you are going to try and turn this over by hand. The engine needs to be pulled and scoped to inspect it. However, if the engine exceeded 10k, and likely 11k, it really doesn’t matter. The engine is done.
Old 10-22-2023, 11:31 AM
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It's 77971,62 euros...that's 82685,00 dollars. That's dealership order. Add about 20% more for customer pay : that's 99222.00 $. All this doesn't include fluids,additional parts that are needed for an engine swap,not to mention labor...
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Old 10-22-2023, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by neanicu
It's 77971,62 euros...that's 82685,00 dollars. That's dealership order. Add about 20% more for customer pay : that's 99222.00 $. All this doesn't include fluids,additional parts that are needed for an engine swap,not to mention labor...
So around $120k all in? If the engine is done i am really surprised there wasn’t some protection against this.
Old 10-22-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDude
I commend the OP for even posting this. I hope the damage is minimal. I’ve always wondered if the autoblip will blip past redline.
Yes it does. Most definitely, but almost always under 9200 rpms
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Old 10-22-2023, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by neanicu
It's 77971,62 euros...that's 82685,00 dollars. That's dealership order. Add about 20% more for customer pay : that's 99222.00 $. All this doesn't include fluids,additional parts that are needed for an engine swap,not to mention labor...
Well, I haven’t seen a 992 engine swap yet, but at the dealership in Austin, for the 991.2 it’s 60-65k.
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Originally Posted by robmypro
So around $120k all in? If the engine is done i am really surprised there wasn’t some protection against this.
I wouldn't think it's that bad : I believe an engine swap on that car pays 15 hours...even if it pays 20 hours flat rate. That's 20 hours times 250$ per hour average = 5 grand in labor.
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Old 10-22-2023, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
Well, I haven’t seen a 992 engine swap yet, but at the dealership in Austin, for the 991.2 it’s 60-65k.
Maybe the dealer can get the engine cheaper,I have no idea. Also,the price I quoted shows a complete engine,with intake manifold and all the auxiliaries : perhaps some dealers order what it's called " a short block " ,meaning it's just the engine and they are reusing parts from the old engine.
Also,I haven't posted that picture,but they do have a complete engine as a second option for a part number that finishes in " X " instead of " 0 " : I believe that's a remanufactured engine...it's much cheaper.
Old 10-22-2023, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
A total loss of power like this would not be a single fuse in the fuse block. It’s most likely the battery is in protection mode. The new batts in the Porsches will also do this when they get low.

Also very unlikely anything “fried.” This was a mechanical overrev. Most likely the valves are bent up and many codes tripped. Possible that the cam is messed up too.

Not sure how you are going to try and turn this over by hand. The engine needs to be pulled and scoped to inspect it. However, if the engine exceeded 10k, and likely 11k, it really doesn’t matter. The engine is done.

Can easily scope it from the rear wheel, pull the plugs and look. You can turn it over by hand with the plugs out, bumper removed and get a socket onto the crank pulley. Worth a shot to
see how things look and if it turns over.
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Originally Posted by neanicu
Maybe the dealer can get the engine cheaper,I have no idea. Also,the price I quoted shows a complete engine,with intake manifold and all the auxiliaries : perhaps some dealers order what it's called " a short block " ,meaning it's just the engine and they are reusing parts from the old engine.
Also,I haven't posted that picture,but they do have a complete engine as a second option for a part number that finishes in " X " instead of " 0 " : I believe that's a remanufactured engine...it's much cheaper.
We also don’t have a 20% VAT. That price may able include the dealer profit. The local dealer here gives a break on the retail price.
Old 10-22-2023, 01:05 PM
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It's weird that you'd lose all power. Someone already mentioned checking the battery, probably need to check the pyro fuse on it as well. Not sure how easy that is, I know it's a bitch to get to.

Please let us know what you find out.
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Old 10-22-2023, 01:11 PM
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Thanks for all your wishes, today the shop put a charger on the battery and the car "woke up". and I told them to wait for me to come and we will try to start it, we said if there is any damage it would be already done I guess.

I pulled over rev actual values before starting up ( only three ranges though )
Does anyone know if 992 GT3 has more than three ranges? I couldn't find them in standard mode.


I started the car with foot on the clutch of course and it started right up without any abnormal sound and as soon as I let out the clutch it shut down. So I tried to start it up again but the battery died. . ( forgot to video the startup )

I still cannot figure out why the battery died, but we will inspect it further tomorrow. it seemed to us that the motor sounded normal and the issue was with the clutch/flywheel.

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There are only 3 over rev zones on the 992 GT3.
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3rd - > 2nd at full throttle is definite engine damage.
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Old 10-22-2023, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleDude
I commend the OP for even posting this. I hope the damage is minimal. I’ve always wondered if the autoblip will blip past redline.
This makes no sense to me. Shouldn't the autoblip software in this case compute the revs needed to rev-match, detect hey this is an over-rev condition, and simply shut off the throttle?

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