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Old 08-09-2023, 08:49 AM
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https://carbuzz.com/news/remote-camber-adjustment-coming-to-porsche-911-gt2-rs

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Originally Posted by mclarenmaniac
That’s pretty crazy - I hope it’s worth the complexity. I guess RAS has been pretty reliable with similar actuators…
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Adjustable anti-roll bars would make way more sense, especially given that it's already available in race cars.
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
Adjustable anti-roll bars would make way more sense, especially given that it's already available in race cars.
Active sway bars would be useful for changing handling balance, but active camber could be more be beneficial (better braking with minimum camber and better cornering with maximum camber).
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Originally Posted by mclarenmaniac
big companies file a lot of patents on things that may or may not come to market in a timely manner - just because a patent is filed doesn't mean it will show up in near term products…it could or could not - it's simply an insight into things "that could happen".
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Maybe it’s the 992.2 GT3RS 🤷🏻‍♂️
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thank you MB/Toto from their 2020 campaign...we'll see if the steering wheel moves in an out!!
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Article mentions dealing with toe changes but nothing about caster, which also changes with camber changes. I trust Porsche can figure it out. Hopefully the system includes real-time tire temperature sensor data along the lines of the link below.

Tire Infrared Temperature Sensors (izzeracing.com)
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https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...t-diffusor-v1/







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Originally Posted by mclarenmaniac

I'm no suspension expert but this diagram appears to show fixed-length upper and lower A-arms. Not sure how an actuator attached at the top of the upright is able to change camber if at least one of the A-arms is not also adjustable on the fly.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
I'm no suspension expert but this diagram appears to show fixed-length upper and lower A-arms. Not sure how an actuator attached at the top of the upright is able to change camber if at least one of the A-arms is not also adjustable on the fly.
As I'm looking at it, the upper A-arm "link" to the wheel carrier/hub (22) has a pivot point (34) that effectively makes the upper A-arm length adjustable as the actuator changes length. I assume they've had to be very clever with the relationship of pivot axes 34 & 36 to not make for odd changes to steering as the camber actuator moves through its stroke.
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Compared to RAS, this sounds far out.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Article mentions dealing with toe changes but nothing about caster, which also changes with camber changes. I trust Porsche can figure it out. Hopefully the system includes real-time tire temperature sensor data along the lines of the link below.

Tire Infrared Temperature Sensors (izzeracing.com)
GT3RS doesn’t have that yet? I thought they have temp now?
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Sounds like an ever desperate engineering to a problem which never existed. I fully understand why Porsche are doing it as there is always pressure on AP to break the Ring time each and every time a new gen appears. Trakcar says it all on his 992RS time at Sebring who has more experience on track than most.
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Originally Posted by jmlmr2
As I'm looking at it, the upper A-arm "link" to the wheel carrier/hub (22) has a pivot point (34) that effectively makes the upper A-arm length adjustable as the actuator changes length. I assume they've had to be very clever with the relationship of pivot axes 34 & 36 to not make for odd changes to steering as the camber actuator moves through its stroke.
Ah yes. I missed that pivot point.

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Sounds like an ever desperate engineering to a problem which never existed. I fully understand why Porsche are doing it as there is always pressure on AP to break the Ring time each and every time a new gen appears. Trakcar says it all on his 992RS time at Sebring who has more experience on track than most.
personally think cockpit adjustable camber and anti-roll bars would be most welcome.
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