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Mhm, all that weight reduction and still only 3.7s on 0-100km/h? Not impressed. Nice car though - would like to see more interior pics of the special door panels they talk about etc
Found the interior here: https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2023...911-33363.html
This guy states RAS was not used to further reduce weight and not having RAS has no bearing on street handling as it does not help it for that application...interesting, so far for all the RAS enthusiasts, according to this Porsche guy it implies it absolutely has no impact on the precision and handling on streets (the English subtitles do not translate it with the strong emphasis the guy in the video makes it...he uses a strong term of "absolutely"...no impact on handling experience and precision driving on roads. Interesting also that the car is 40kg/80lbs lighter and 20lbs alone comes from the tranny...rest is wheels, hood, roof, doors, and interior I suppose. Finally, he explains why not using the RS spoilers for road use and states the aero deploys at 130km/h or about 80mph. My aero deploys at 60mph.
Found the interior here: https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2023...911-33363.html
This guy states RAS was not used to further reduce weight and not having RAS has no bearing on street handling as it does not help it for that application...interesting, so far for all the RAS enthusiasts, according to this Porsche guy it implies it absolutely has no impact on the precision and handling on streets (the English subtitles do not translate it with the strong emphasis the guy in the video makes it...he uses a strong term of "absolutely"...no impact on handling experience and precision driving on roads. Interesting also that the car is 40kg/80lbs lighter and 20lbs alone comes from the tranny...rest is wheels, hood, roof, doors, and interior I suppose. Finally, he explains why not using the RS spoilers for road use and states the aero deploys at 130km/h or about 80mph. My aero deploys at 60mph.
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Mhm, all that weight reduction and still only 3.7s on 0-100km/h? Not impressed. Nice car though - would like to see more interior pics of the special door panels they talk about etc
Found the interior here: https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2023...911-33363.html
This guy states RAS was not used to further reduce weight and not having RAS has no bearing on street handling as it does not help it for that application...interesting, so far for all the RAS enthusiasts, according to this Porsche guy it implies it absolutely has no impact on the precision and handling on streets (the English subtitles do not translate it with the strong emphasis the guy in the video makes it...he uses a strong term of "absolutely"...no impact on handling experience and precision driving on roads. Interesting also that the car is 40kg/80lbs lighter and 20lbs alone comes from the tranny...rest is wheels, hood, roof, doors, and interior I suppose. Finally, he explains why not using the RS spoilers for road use and states the aero deploys at 130km/h or about 80mph. My aero deploys at 60mph.
Found the interior here: https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2023...911-33363.html
This guy states RAS was not used to further reduce weight and not having RAS has no bearing on street handling as it does not help it for that application...interesting, so far for all the RAS enthusiasts, according to this Porsche guy it implies it absolutely has no impact on the precision and handling on streets (the English subtitles do not translate it with the strong emphasis the guy in the video makes it...he uses a strong term of "absolutely"...no impact on handling experience and precision driving on roads. Interesting also that the car is 40kg/80lbs lighter and 20lbs alone comes from the tranny...rest is wheels, hood, roof, doors, and interior I suppose. Finally, he explains why not using the RS spoilers for road use and states the aero deploys at 130km/h or about 80mph. My aero deploys at 60mph.
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yeah, they also added a small gurney/lip spoiler...was told here I destroy my aero with that....but to their credit I don't have the same GT3 like front end.
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I bet the 992.2 GT3 will have that same fender cutout and flare behind the front wheel.
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Beautiful car. Do I want one? Yes. Can I afford one? No. Would I get an allocation? No. Same old same old.
Having watched a few interviews with AP about the S/T it seems to me that Porsche themselves are having trouble squeezing these extra models into their line up and then justifying why/how they are different. He was choosing his words very carefully so as to not knock the other models...
Having watched a few interviews with AP about the S/T it seems to me that Porsche themselves are having trouble squeezing these extra models into their line up and then justifying why/how they are different. He was choosing his words very carefully so as to not knock the other models...
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Exactly. Let’s make a drivers car, but let’s make sure we make as little as possible so barely anyone can drive it and sell it in a way no one will drive it. Sick of these BS cars. 911 BS model. Porsche used to be cool. Now they are the worse of the performance car brands.
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Another "Special" model that will be the most expensive 992 yet, starting at $ 300K. But a regular guy, even if they are willing to pay, can't get one. These are for Celebrities, Soical Media Influencers and Sports Stars, the image cars. Promote the brand, and interest someone to just buy a "regular" 911. I think it's dark marketing and distasteful, and to me - a lifelong enthusiast - it dilutes the brand instead of building it up. And should the stars align and one becomes available somewhere, its double the sticker price. Ugh.
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Not sure why all the hate for the Special Editions. Even though they are unobtainable for most, they breathe in new life with the 911 brand and help sell obtainable 911's. Thus keeping our 911 resale values high. I haven't heard any 911 owners complain on how high their resale value or trade in value is. Hats off to Porsche for Heritage Editions.
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Feelings/Perceptions > Engineering in this product segment. I'm actually surprised to see how much changed in this package, and hoping some of it is passed on to the .2 GT3. ST is certainly very desirable to me, though I can't afford it. It adds back two things I miss from the 997.2 RS - the shorter gear ratios and single mass flywheel (which made if sound like a bucket of bolts when idling, but felt very special)
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The new “smooth” 992.2 front end cleans up a lot of the disjointed mess. The rear cleans it up too, but with real rear bumper vents.
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Exactly. Let’s make a drivers car, but let’s make sure we make as little as possible so barely anyone can drive it and sell it in a way no one will drive it. Sick of these BS cars. 911 BS model. Porsche used to be cool. Now they are the worse of the performance car brands.
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Not sure why all the hate for the Special Editions. Even though they are unobtainable for most, they breathe in new life with the 911 brand and help sell obtainable 911's. Thus keeping our 911 resale values high. I haven't heard any 911 owners complain on how high their resale value or trade in value is. Hats off to Porsche for Heritage Editions.
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So it's safe to say that for street driving RAS is worthless and not needed since the S/T doesn't have it making it more special? Or RAS is a great upgrade that enhances the driving? I'm confused, which is it because it can't be both?
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We can only hope that we get some of the stuff off the S/T in the 992.2 GT3/Touring.
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