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Between the rev match, power shift feature and the synchros etc, the only thing analog about the MT are the people who keep saying it’s more analog than the PDK.
Rev match: defeatable
Power shift: optional
Synchros: you mean those mechanical devices that have been in every single 911 manual transmission ever made, going all the way back to the 901?
For those insisting that the MT selection puts you "in touch" with the Zen of "real" sports car ethos. It does and then again it doesn't. The differences between the DCT and the MT, from the drivers seat is that: 1.) In a DCT you can have the transmission shift automatically or you can do it manually with steering wheel mounted paddles, -OR- 2.) With the pseudo MT you must shift with a simulated lever and a mechanically actuated clutch at all times. The MT may "feel" more like a traditional manual transmission, but its more illusion than reality,
A Car & Driver" article that covers this can be found here: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ual-enjoyment/
The image below is from this Car & Driver article. . .
^ It mentions nothing about a computer aided transmission for the manual like the PDK, (you are conflating two different transmissions here) it simply states that for THAT 7 speed, in order for it to not feel funny, the 7th gears are laid out in a specific order connected to and with a special linkage.
Also, this is a GT3 forum, we have 6 speeds, not that funky 7 speed.
991.2 GT3 RS for the track and the road - the RS is faster on track and on the road it will always be a RS, there isn't a substitute. The double wish bone is only relevant if you can drive a GT car at the limit and the vast majority of people can't do that and have no interest in doing that. There is nothing magical about double wishbone suspension - the Miata has it.
Driving a 991 and 992 GT3 back to back I strongly disagree. The double wishbone is a game changer, even off the track. You can feel the difference in the contact patch through almost any turn with any sort of speed. The fact that other cars have it does not take away from the changes it brings to a rear engine car like the 911. The miata can also have a manual transmission, does that mean the manual in the GT3 is the same? Or doesn't matter since other cars have it too? Odd thing to say.
Originally Posted by groundhog
The interior in the 992, particularly the digital interface, will age poorly and could be from any AUDI/MB/BMW. In a nutshell, the 992 GT3 fixed the obvious deficiency in the 991.2 GT3 - the front end, the 991.2 GT3 RS had that fixed with increased track and tire.
You may be the first person who has ever said this about the interior of the 992. I LOVE the 991 interior but the 992 is leaps ahead of it and will age amazingly. It is so much more livable and still feels like a 911.
This feedback from you is no surprise, you have sh*t on the 992 GT3 since the subforum has opened.
Driving a 991 and 992 GT3 back to back I strongly disagree. The double wishbone is a game changer, even off the track. You can feel the difference in the contact patch through almost any turn with any sort of speed. The fact that other cars have it does not take away from the changes it brings to a rear engine car like the 911. The miata can also have a manual transmission, does that mean the manual in the GT3 is the same? Or doesn't matter since other cars have it too? Odd thing to say.
You may be the first person who has ever said this about the interior of the 992. I LOVE the 991 interior but the 992 is leaps ahead of it and will age amazingly. It is so much more livable and still feels like a 911.
This feedback from you is no surprise, you have sh*t on the 992 GT3 since the subforum has opened.
Agree with those two points. The turn in and front grip on the 992 are a significant, maybe even revolutionary, improvement - I am surprised more people are not complaining that it takes away a major element of the 911's character. Every GT car prior to this required a unique driving style at corner entry to compensate for the lack of front grip on power - including the RS, nothing special about the 991 RS over a regular GT3 when it comes to suspension geometry or kinematics, the only benefit is that you can stuff a 285+ tire up there (which helps a ton). To say that the double wishbone is no big deal needs some fact checking. This is a new era of v-min for the GT cars.
Interior wise I agree, Porsche removed almost all the buttons that plagued the 981/718/991 interior. The 996-991 interiors lack the original 911's elegance and simplicity. 993 and prior were simple and more like the 992 - i'm sure that's not a coincidence. The dash that I use does not feel digital, in track mode the layout is perfect and the touch screen is blacked out. I do agree that the non-track mode dials feel artificial and annoy me. I really hope they don't screw up the .2....but it looks like they will. Porsche is not a software company, so any more pixels or digital UX bring a lot of risk to my happiness. The part of the 992 that is inferior to 991 in my opinion is the quality of ownership and overall experience. The digital portion of Porsches ecosystem is a shameful and embarrassing effort, and all the sad faces I've had in the last nearly 2 years with my 992 have come from the digital side....oh, and the build quality.
The RS looks like a race car, the gt3 looks like a 911. I can’t extract the full potential of either so I go with the cool race car looks.
Owned both, but not the track time many here have. Currently driving a 22 Touring, I was filling up the other day and the guy next to me asked if I always put premium in my 3.0 turbo 911... I had planned on putting a after market ducktail
on it when I bought it but am now seriously considering going back to a 991.2 RS, nothing else looks like it. yep, the 992 Touring rides a little better on the road but not much difference in tire and road noise, maybe more, and the exhaust
isn't the same. Something about the wide body RS...
05-17-2023 | 08:37 PM
