catdog2

Yes the RS is raw and loud and less refined.
If you like analog then choice is clear. If you prefer modern then 992!

GrantG

Unless you like your gear changes to be more analog too…

groundhog

991.2 GT3 RS for the track and the road - the RS is faster on track and on the road it will always be a RS, there isn't a substitute. The double wish bone is only relevant if you can drive a GT car at the limit and the vast majority of people can't do that and have no interest in doing that. There is nothing magical about double wishbone suspension - the Miata has it.

The interior in the 992, particularly the digital interface, will age poorly and could be from any AUDI/MB/BMW. In a nutshell, the 992 GT3 fixed the obvious deficiency in the 991.2 GT3 - the front end, the 991.2 GT3 RS had that fixed with increased track and tire.

The more interesting discussion is around the touring, my view is the 991 911 R is more interesting than the 991.2 GT3 touring, which is more interesting than the 992 GT3 touring.

In other words these discussions really revolve around do you prefer a certain body style or interior or do you prefer a car with its own character - any performance discussion is only relevant if you can drive well and your PB is particularly important in the list of reasons why you buy these cars.

Analogue or digital watch, same type of discussion

mooty

hello twin.
RS is always RS when it's within the same generation, for me.
but I know what you mean.
I may have coined that phrase.

I agree with ya, again ;-)


some say wishbone only matters on track or at limit. that I disagree.
I have had every water cooled GT3/RS (except 996gt3RS)... 991GT3 platform is a HUGE step forward. the steering feel is better than anything b4 it. the turn in grip has on resemblance to 911 b4 it. having had over 100k miles on 997 and 100k miles on 996 chassis, inc 30k miles on RS4.0... for driving on road or on track, I take 992GT3 over any water cooled GT3/RS.. no it will not retain value like RS4.0 but that was not what we were talking about.

Quarter mile

yes

Quarter mile

Completely agree that the 992 interior is too digital and I’m not a big fan. The 991.2 RS is a special car.

groundhog

What you are feeling is a change in steering rack rate and wider track.

Track has a big impact on turn in, and rack rate adds a darty feel along with the additional OEM -ve camber (they may have added to or recalibrated the RAS but cant remember). To say the 992 GT3 is a huge step forward isn't backed up by the data. The 991 from 997 was a huge step forward, the 992 from 991 is relatively minor (e.g. packaging for battery/hybridisation - plus simplification of bodies, no narrow body, production line compatibility with other models etc).

When it comes down to tire compounds to differentiate performance on track you're fighting a losing logic battle (Cup 2 Vs Cup 2 R).

Plenty would take a GT4 RS before a 992 GT3 - for many good reasons and that has struts all round. The 992 GT3 is perhaps, the most polished GT3 Porsche have produced, and the easiest to drive at near the limit, but it is also the least interesting. Certainly it is from my perspective.

catdog2

yes of course, comparing pdk to pdk...
that's why I have a 991.2GT3 touring

I resisted moving to 992 platform for the longest time, I still have my 991.2 RS and Touring and a well equipped T all three of which i really enjoy.

Added 992 C2S with spasm and after initially feeling overwhelmed by digitalness of it I am have come around and it's a very impressive car, to the point where going back to 991.2 now feels like a clear generational divide. Kind of like going back to 997 from 991 (duh). When it comes point to some of my favorite backroads I think the 992 C2S provides enough pleasure to consider lightening the older herd (not the gt variants).

So if you enjoy newer things and don't have a nostalgic bend you may want to go 992 generation. As always looking back each 911 generation has charms quirks and aural/sensory experiences that get lost and are not better but overall for daily use newer is sadly better in most things. If you factor in the manual, improved suspension and aerodynamics then 992 GT3 would make sense.

That is until you see a 991.2 GT3RS in the flesh from the front and side and hear its wild bark pop and scream...

Try to get both if you can you will be happiest.

chance6

But I think there is a difference on the street. Specifically the suspension and ride quality between 992 GT3 and .2 RS. 992 is more livable, at least to me.

groundhog

The digital interior craze is largely a cost saving measure, as you would appreciate they are a series of screens that can display anything you like in any way that you want. Digital watches are great and yet I generally wear analogue. Good quality analogue dials and switch gear rarely date, digital displays date terribly.

PhilT3 (PT3)

This is a big detractor for me regarding the 992. I love the more analog dash/controls of the 991.2 variant. Though…I must admit…the rear-end of the 992’s have captured my interest in a BIG way!

GrantG

I prefer the dash and taillights of the 991 more, but doesn't come close to evening the overall score with 992 imo.

jlee504

I’ve had both and back to back. I’m not sure I felt that much if a difference between the two cars besides the front end is better on 992 and the ride was better on the RS. I found the RS suspension be more compliant than even the 991.2 gt3. The 992 gt3 suspension makes me car sick at low speeds.

NCheok

Wow, I never thought about it like this and thought it's just me until you mentioned, I too feel sick in the 992 GT3 with the way the suspension moves the car at certain low speeds.

GrantG

Yes, very slow speeds and very bad road surfaces are miserable in the 992 (almost throws you out of the seat sometimes). But once rolling at any reasonable speed and it is a non-issue.