View Poll Results: What ADM is your dealer charging?
No ADM
73
39.04%
0-10k
9
4.81%
11-20k
10
5.35%
21k-30k
10
5.35%
31k-40k
11
5.88%
41k-50k
22
11.76%
51k-60k
12
6.42%
61k-70k
7
3.74%
71k-80k
11
5.88%
81k+
22
11.76%
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#61
Race Car
Your narrative continues to be bogus. But then again, I've never met an 'SC alum that didn't embellish.
Seems to be their MO.
#62
I'm a bit embarrassed at the 60% of people who paid ADM. myself included.
#63
Instructor
Thread Starter
Many claim to have paid MSRP, which may be true, but the people I know it was true, the MSRP was given with a very desirable trade-in and after long history of buying and trading shortly back to the same dealer.
I paid an ADM for last allocation for MY23 and look forward to finally getting the car. Looks like Porsche is going to push many price increases and all those waiting may end up paying as much as we did just with the MSRP.
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#65
lol, who's not charging ADM, thats what we all want to know
#67
I call BS on the no ADM. I want to see invoices. Paying no ADM is as wishful as 90% of the folks in this forum who say they had an allocation in 2021.
Like lap times, it didn't happen unless you have a data file or video.
Like lap times, it didn't happen unless you have a data file or video.
Last edited by ShakeNBake; 06-16-2023 at 03:50 PM.
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#68
Race Car
This poll is worthless.
#69
Drifting
sorry, we exist. Most of us have been buying Porsches from a local dealer long before they became trendy. Yes we got hammered on trade ins, but 10 years ago simply driving a new Porsche off the lot was guaranteed significant depreciation, that was simply the norm. It was even common to take minimum 5% off of new 911s. Remember the 991.1 Turbo S? They were all sitting around at massive discounts new. Times change, but for loyal customers who have been there buying thru it all the reward these days is MSRP GT cars.
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#70
sorry, we exist. Most of us have been buying Porsches from a local dealer long before they became trendy. Yes we got hammered on trade ins, but 10 years ago simply driving a new Porsche off the lot was guaranteed significant depreciation, that was simply the norm. It was even common to take minimum 5% off of new 911s. Remember the 991.1 Turbo S? They were all sitting around at massive discounts new. Times change, but for loyal customers who have been there buying thru it all the reward these days is MSRP GT cars.
#71
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Rennlist polls are like horoscopes.
For entertainment purposes only. And sometimes not even that.
For entertainment purposes only. And sometimes not even that.
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#72
Again, people can say all they want and justify with million dollar/year buying. I'll believe it when I see proof. Word on the internet is worth about $0. There is too much cool-kid sentiment for those who imagine they pay no adm. People who claim they didn't pay an ADM, and no other dealer raping associated with their purchase lose a lot of credibility in my mind, not that my opinion matters to anyone.
Last edited by ShakeNBake; 06-17-2023 at 11:12 AM.
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#73
There are many here that don't care what you believe or don't believe; and are not motivated to disclose any proof of purchase price to you as there is zero benefit in doing so....
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#74
This is all about preference and I think less to do with how much money you have in the bank. Even if I had an 8 figure annual income, I still would not pay a dime over msrp. The reason for this is mere out of principal. I consider the entire food chain of the car industry, from the moment designers design the car, to engineers testing it, factory workers assembling it, ship people loading and unloading, and the dealership sales guy sending you emails. In this entire food chain, the person that has the least to contribute and the least intellectual productivity is the sales people. I have a huge problem with them pocketing bags of cash doing very little and none of this money going back to the mothership, to the people who truly deserve it the most.
Lastly, Porsche “suggests” the MSRP. I have a problem paying more than what the company who built the car and researched the market factoring in their R&D costs say the car’s price should be. Its all a matter of principal.
I will never pay ADM. It would bother me so much that it would ruin the ownership experience. Every time I turn the ignition on, I’d remember the fake smile the ADM grabbing dealership employee had taking my money.
Lastly, Porsche “suggests” the MSRP. I have a problem paying more than what the company who built the car and researched the market factoring in their R&D costs say the car’s price should be. Its all a matter of principal.
I will never pay ADM. It would bother me so much that it would ruin the ownership experience. Every time I turn the ignition on, I’d remember the fake smile the ADM grabbing dealership employee had taking my money.
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#75
This is all about preference and I think less to do with how much money you have in the bank. Even if I had an 8 figure annual income, I still would not pay a dime over msrp. The reason for this is mere out of principal. I consider the entire food chain of the car industry, from the moment designers design the car, to engineers testing it, factory workers assembling it, ship people loading and unloading, and the dealership sales guy sending you emails. In this entire food chain, the person that has the least to contribute and the least intellectual productivity is the sales people. I have a huge problem with them pocketing bags of cash doing very little and none of this money going back to the mothership, to the people who truly deserve it the most.
Lastly, Porsche “suggests” the MSRP. I have a problem paying more than what the company who built the car and researched the market factoring in their R&D costs say the car’s price should be. Its all a matter of principal.
I will never pay ADM. It would bother me so much that it would ruin the ownership experience. Every time I turn the ignition on, I’d remember the fake smile the ADM grabbing dealership employee had taking my money.
Lastly, Porsche “suggests” the MSRP. I have a problem paying more than what the company who built the car and researched the market factoring in their R&D costs say the car’s price should be. Its all a matter of principal.
I will never pay ADM. It would bother me so much that it would ruin the ownership experience. Every time I turn the ignition on, I’d remember the fake smile the ADM grabbing dealership employee had taking my money.
Last edited by usctrojanGT3; 06-17-2023 at 01:37 PM.
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