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Old 03-26-2023, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Here's a novel idea....you want more profits? Build more cars...DUH
Nope, fastest way to achieve more profits is by charging significantly more money per unit than building more units.

Top tier manufacturers have been doing this for awhile now. And Porsche has caught on to the same game. From a commercial perspective, building more units require more employees, more cash outlay and more risks. Keeping production at status quo and charge 10-15% more is much simpler and faster....HOWEVER, I know this is not what we want to hear
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Old 03-26-2023, 09:45 PM
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Porsche charge what they will think the market will bare, they have always had this approach. However, there are other real world factors in play e.g. disruption to suppliers that in turn create delays that in turn create currency hedge risk etc.

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Originally Posted by Finlander
The douchebags in this world are the people who ridicule corporations and their money, while having no clue how to start, manage, and grow a business.
Really? If I'm a customer sometimes the corporation deserves to be ridiculed, or at least questioned. This is how corporations are held to account. The quote came off as extremely arrogant. And I don't care if they are the CFO or not.

Shall we just let Porsche raise prices 10% across the board? How about 20% ? f* it, how about 30%? At what point does the customer say this is b*ll****?

A company with 18% return on sales is doing very f* well.

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Originally Posted by supershaft
I'm not sure if you are trolling or not but there is a button to turn on headlights just above and to the right of the ignition?
You can turn them on, but you can't turn them off. You can hold down the 'parking light' button for a few seconds which will shut the headlights off...for a few seconds. Then the damn thing automatically reverts to Automatic control. Annoying AF. So you can never have full control over when to turn the lights off and keep them off.

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Old 03-27-2023, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Speaking of Faux News being sued for $1.6 Billion, it sure sounds like Rupert Murdoch is awful tired of all that WINNING!

Not a rumor.
The Truth.


TDS is a real affliction.
Old 03-27-2023, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Manoverpdk
TDS is a real affliction.
Naaaaa....

I know what a real conservative looks like and voted for one (Ronald Reagan) as opposed to a total fraud and traitor.
People are so gullible these days and easily duped and played.

At least the Republican Secretary of State of Georgia wasnt played.

"I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."
"I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break"

"There's nothing wrong with saying that you've recalculated."

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Old 03-27-2023, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chance6
Really? If I'm a customer sometimes the corporation deserves to be ridiculed, or at least questioned. This is how corporations are held to account. The quote came off as extremely arrogant. And I don't care if they are the CFO or not.

Shall we just let Porsche raise prices 10% across the board? How about 20% ? f* it, how about 30%? At what point does the customer say this is b*ll****?

A company with 18% return on sales is doing very f* well.
I don't like when brands that I love raise their prices either, but I don't think what they're doing is out of line with what many other companies are doing, and what is required by them due to the current economic climate. Keep in mind, over the last 2 years we have experienced 5%-6% inflation per year (8% in Germany 22') ...most businesses can't just absorb a 10%-12% increase on their costs, ie, 10%-12% reduction in profit over the course of 24 months. They also don't know what the future may hold. Profit and cash are crucial to the health and success of a growing business, especially one that is making huge investments, such as synthetic e-fuel.

Everything will work itself out.
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Old 03-27-2023, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by redmonkey928
22' GT3 was $161,100 base price
23' GT3 is $167,700 base price
4% increase in price that no one batted an eye at

Yes they can and will increase it by 10% next year if they want
2023 GT3 Base was $169,700
Ask me how I know.


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Originally Posted by chance6
Really? If I'm a customer sometimes the corporation deserves to be ridiculed, or at least questioned. This is how corporations are held to account. The quote came off as extremely arrogant. And I don't care if they are the CFO or not.

Shall we just let Porsche raise prices 10% across the board? How about 20% ? f* it, how about 30%? At what point does the customer say this is b*ll****?

A company with 18% return on sales is doing very f* well.
New touring allocations are $70+K over. gt3rs are way more than that. So, Yeah. They can raise prices a **** ton more. And your dealer will just shrug and say “don’t let the door hurt your *** on the way out, poors”. When there are multiple customers waiting for each allocation, half of them can evaporate and nobody will care.
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Old 03-27-2023, 11:58 PM
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There is a point where a price hike will start to erode customer demand, but I don't think that point is 10%. And push come to shove, let's say Porsche hiked prices by 30%, ADM's evaporated, and cars started stacking up on showroom floors. With a really fat profit margin, they could afford to discount cars until they could move them and still make sizable profits. It would damage the brand a bit, which is probably why they don't do that, but for sure they could be hiking prices more aggressively on the GT cars at least.
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Originally Posted by G.Irish
There is a point where a price hike will start to erode customer demand, but I don't think that point is 10%. And push come to shove, let's say Porsche hiked prices by 30%, ADM's evaporated, and cars started stacking up on showroom floors. With a really fat profit margin, they could afford to discount cars until they could move them and still make sizable profits. It would damage the brand a bit, which is probably why they don't do that, but for sure they could be hiking prices more aggressively on the GT cars at least.
I hope they hike it enough to where it makes little financial sense for flippers. Win win all around
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Originally Posted by DodoBrd
I hope they hike it enough to where it makes little financial sense for flippers. Win win all around
Porsche could restrict warranty transfer for a year and kill scalpers in one shot.
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Originally Posted by supershaft
Porsche could restrict warranty transfer for a year and kill scalpers in one shot.
Nope. It’s not working for GM. If you’re rich enough to pay $70K+ in adm, you can self insure or get a 3rd party warranty. It won’t stop flipping, but it might take the cost of the 3rd party warranty out of the adm.

Literally the one good thing capitalism does, better than anything else, and people just keep pretending that market pricing isn’t real. So bizarre.
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Naaaaa....

I know what a real conservative looks like and voted for one (Ronald Reagan) as opposed to a total fraud and traitor.
People are so gullible these days and easily duped and played.

At least the Republican Secretary of State of Georgia wasnt played.

"I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."
"I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break"

"There's nothing wrong with saying that you've recalculated."
Hope you heal and find peace.
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
Nope. It’s not working for GM. If you’re rich enough to pay $70K+ in adm, you can self insure or get a 3rd party warranty. It won’t stop flipping, but it might take the cost of the 3rd party warranty out of the adm.

Literally the one good thing capitalism does, better than anything else, and people just keep pretending that market pricing isn’t real. So bizarre.
I think you are right... Wishful thinking on my end


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