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Old 08-22-2022 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
1. ugly or not, only matters to the owner. I find many ppl's wives ugly but hey they aren't mine girl, I couldn't care less.
2. there are no super cars. a car is a car. get in and drive it.
I dunno about that.

If my friend married a girl that made Roseanne Barr (on her best days) look like a supermodel, I would definitely have to rethink our friendship.
Old 08-22-2022 | 06:19 PM
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The new RS looks wicked. I loved the 991.1RS, the .2 not so much. The 992 definitely looks like a pure track toy, but it's a good looking car.

And I agree with the earlier poster about the P1. One of the best looking supercars ever made, if not the best.
Old 08-22-2022 | 06:27 PM
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Agree on P1 ……….
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Old 08-22-2022 | 07:06 PM
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I have to say I'm not all that crazy abut how the new GT3RS looks. But for what it's intended purpose is I don't think that matters much.

I think most McLarens are beautiful, especially the P1. I think the 600LT and 765LT are also gorgeous, and the Artura is even better than the Sport series IMO.

My first reaction to the Senna was it was ugly, but seeing it in person it is much better. Still not what I would call beautiful, but really nice.

I got to see the Aston Martin Valhalla in the flesh in Monterey last weekend. It's absolutely stunning.
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Old 08-22-2022 | 09:53 PM
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I hope lots of people don’t like the looks of the 992GT3RS, don’t think it’s a supercar, can’t live without a frunk and cancel their orders - it may give me some hope in getting an allocation
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Old 08-22-2022 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WenigerAberBeser
And that’s also the problem.

To most people, a 20 yo Maserati GT is a supercar, while a 2022 Porsche GT3 is just another Porsche.

The term Supercar doesn’t mean anything unless you are a car sheeple. Unfortunately, our society is filled with car sheeple trying to impress other car sheeple.
bad example picking the Maserati GranTurismo, it may not be fast or a super car but has the best engine sound period full stop....

now what were you saying again?? Couldn't hear you over the best pops crackles and screams of the Masi GT's V8...especially 2009S with the F1

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Old 08-23-2022 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AllAboutThatP
I have to say I'm not all that crazy abut how the new GT3RS looks. But for what it's intended purpose is I don't think that matters much.

I think most McLarens are beautiful, especially the P1. I think the 600LT and 765LT are also gorgeous, and the Artura is even better than the Sport series IMO.

My first reaction to the Senna was it was ugly, but seeing it in person it is much better. Still not what I would call beautiful, but really nice.

I got to see the Aston Martin Valhalla in the flesh in Monterey last weekend. It's absolutely stunning.
Same here, but the 992 GT3 RS is a track toy and fit for purpose, thats why a lot of people buy them - I don't particularly care about the looks.

Agree on the 600LT, stunning car as is the 720S and the P1 is simply a no brainer. Like yourself, I have a foot in each camp. Super cars are where art meets design and engineering.

Where as Porsche - mainly engineering, some design and no art.

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Old 08-23-2022 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Maverick787
Agree on P1 ……….
The P1 in race mode is one of the best looking modern super/hypercars.




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Old 08-23-2022 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Reece Harvath
a gt3 or gt3rs is not a supercar
based on what criteria? I ask cos everyone has an opinion on this.
Old 08-23-2022 | 08:21 PM
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I don't think there's a supercar out there that can beat this design.
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Old 08-23-2022 | 08:27 PM
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Senna in person is a stunner.
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Old 08-23-2022 | 09:16 PM
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Agree, the P1 is one of the best looking hypercars ever created.
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Old 08-23-2022 | 10:25 PM
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P1 is gorgeous. I think the Valhalla is going to be up there.
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Supercar doesn't mean some arbitrary construction type (carbon fiber, etc.).
Supercar means it feels "super" when you drive it, so it has to be over some (also arbitrary) performance threshold or combination of performance (quarter mile, lap time, roadholding) for a particular day and age.
I'd go further to say that there should be some innovative engineering effort behind the car. But again that doesn't mean mid engine bespoke carbon fiber chassis because there are other ways to be innovative in the engineering. Otherwise we just think supercars are cars that we think look like supercars, which doesn't make sense, isn't very useful, and in my opinion is a bit boring.
A Nissan GTR (R35) was certainly a supercar when it came out.

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Old 08-24-2022 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Yargk
Supercar doesn't mean some arbitrary construction type (carbon fiber, etc.).
Supercar means it feels "super" when you drive it, so it has to be over some (also arbitrary) performance threshold or combination of performance (quarter mile, lap time, roadholding) for a particular day and age.
I'd go further to say that there should be some innovative engineering effort behind the car. But again that doesn't mean mid engine bespoke carbon fiber chassis because there are other ways to be innovative in the engineering. Otherwise we just think supercars are cars that we think look like supercars, which doesn't make sense, isn't very useful, and in my opinion is a bit boring.
A Nissan GTR (R35) was certainly a supercar when it came out.
Everyone generally recognises a supercar when they see it, why?

(1) Art
(2) Design
(3) Materials
(4) Construction
(5) Engineering
(6) Performance
(7) Production numbers

The R35 isn't a super car in the same way a GT3 isn't - they are simply well engineered performance cars.
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