Notices
992 GT3 and GT2RS Forum 2019-Current
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

FAL on 992 worthless...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-09-2021, 11:42 PM
  #31  
MaxLTV
Rennlist Member
 
MaxLTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: West Vancouver and San Francisco
Posts: 4,210
Received 1,164 Likes on 577 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by shrimp money
And unnecessarily complicated on the 720s. I think it’s just a button on 765LT.
It's a pain in the butt on 765LT - takes forever and only works with wheels straight for some strange reason.

Back on the topic - the ducts attached to control arms is nothing new. Even Turbo has that. Usually it's not a problem because when a wheel goes over a bump, the wheel goes up, and so does the duct that's attached to the control arm.

As for the rear diffuser - I was worried about that when I saw it. Does it crack or just scratch? Scratching is nothing, IMO - you can just keep driving. Eventually, it will conform to your driving environment and stop scraping.

It's not as simple with the front. Yes, the front lip cover is cheap and easily replaceable, but it sits on the splitter that's part of the bumper, so if it catches on something rather than just dragging over it, it gets expensive. When my 991 GT3 lip caught onto dirt and ripped off the splitter under it, the entire bumper needed to be replaced, and it was something like $14K after paint and clear bra reapplication... So FAL is worth it.

Last edited by MaxLTV; 11-10-2021 at 12:48 AM.
The following users liked this post:
michaeldorian (11-10-2021)
Old 01-30-2022, 06:41 PM
  #32  
cosmos
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
cosmos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Between rock and hard place
Posts: 3,614
Received 1,049 Likes on 581 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MaxLTV

It's not as simple with the front. Yes, the front lip cover is cheap and easily replaceable, but it sits on the splitter that's part of the bumper, so if it catches on something rather than just dragging over it, it gets expensive. When my 991 GT3 lip caught onto dirt and ripped off the splitter under it, the entire bumper needed to be replaced, and it was something like $14K after paint and clear bra reapplication... So FAL is worth it.
So you had FAL, it was basically useless and still had $14k worth of damage? Doesn’t sound like FAL helped to avoid anything and proves point, it’s not a must have at all.
Old 02-01-2022, 12:32 AM
  #33  
Engeljizzle
Pro
 
Engeljizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Orlando / Nürburg
Posts: 511
Received 123 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Lol.
Old 02-01-2022, 02:39 AM
  #34  
jayely1
Pro
 
jayely1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 650
Received 195 Likes on 104 Posts
Default

Who's even more confused now about ordering FAL?
The following users liked this post:
jpginmia (05-03-2024)
Old 02-01-2022, 11:30 AM
  #35  
Agu
AutoX
 
Agu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Gorizia
Posts: 10
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by jayely1
Who's even more confused now about ordering FAL?
I am...
Old 02-01-2022, 11:57 AM
  #36  
GrantG
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
GrantG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Denver
Posts: 17,857
Received 4,788 Likes on 2,726 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Agu
I am...
I think FAL is still useful, but it is more challenging to use. You can't just press the button and expect to clear obstacles like the 991. Now you have to raise and lower the nose (and by extension, the tail in opposite) as you clear obstacles (otherwise you may clear the nose and scrape the tail).
The following users liked this post:
raymort (02-01-2022)
Old 02-01-2022, 12:23 PM
  #37  
LexVan
Banned
 
LexVan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Chicagoland Area
Posts: 26,142
Likes: 0
Received 5,392 Likes on 2,510 Posts
Default

Haven't needed to use mine much. Glad it's there when needed.
Old 02-01-2022, 09:23 PM
  #38  
Engeljizzle
Pro
 
Engeljizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Orlando / Nürburg
Posts: 511
Received 123 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

I just moved to piece of crap Florida where I don't need it anymore.
The following users liked this post:
cosmos (02-02-2022)
Old 02-03-2022, 03:17 AM
  #39  
MaxLTV
Rennlist Member
 
MaxLTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: West Vancouver and San Francisco
Posts: 4,210
Received 1,164 Likes on 577 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cosmos
So you had FAL, it was basically useless and still had $14k worth of damage? Doesn’t sound like FAL helped to avoid anything and proves point, it’s not a must have at all.
Wow, interesting logic. Drunk posting?

The point is the front lip cover is replaceable and cheap, but that can give a false sense of comfort because it sits on top of the lower part of the integrated bumper. So if the lip does not glide over something but catches on it, the whole bumper cracks and you have to buy a new one, which is surprisingly expensive.

How does it say anything about FAL being useless? If anything, it is closer to the opposite - the lip is less likely to catch on to something if the front is higher.
How me losing a bumper from hitting some dirt with the splitter (while driving on Laguna Seca) is even related to how effective FAL is? It illustrates how that cheap black splitter guard grabbing onto something can cost a lot more than it seems.

Sheesh




Old 02-03-2022, 04:16 AM
  #40  
Karl911
Burning Brakes
 
Karl911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: S. Fl.
Posts: 1,048
Received 424 Likes on 181 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GrantG
I think FAL is still useful, but it is more challenging to use. You can't just press the button and expect to clear obstacles like the 991. Now you have to raise and lower the nose (and by extension, the tail in opposite) as you clear obstacles (otherwise you may clear the nose and scrape the tail).
How can it be more challenging to use, you can save lift locations, now you do nothing!
Old 02-03-2022, 10:04 AM
  #41  
Poupon McArr
Racer
 
Poupon McArr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 284
Received 131 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Karl911
How can it be more challenging to use, you can save lift locations, now you do nothing!
His point was now you have to press to go back down to avoid scraping the rear where as previously you could let the car automatically go down on its own.
Old 02-03-2022, 10:08 AM
  #42  
ShakeNBake
Rennlist Member
 
ShakeNBake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5,652
Received 947 Likes on 548 Posts
Default

Still using it every day here in Austin.
Old 02-03-2022, 10:18 AM
  #43  
GrantG
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
GrantG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Denver
Posts: 17,857
Received 4,788 Likes on 2,726 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Karl911
How can it be more challenging to use, you can save lift locations, now you do nothing!
Because if you do that you’ll tear up the rear diffuser. You have to lift or lower the lift button as you’re half way over certain obstacles now (like driveways) to prevent grounding the rear. I turned off the GPS function for this reason.
Old 04-24-2024, 12:39 AM
  #44  
Arroqueno
Rennlist Member
 
Arroqueno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 203
Received 104 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

Well, wish I had seen this thread before this happened

I'm currently house shopping and found a house I liked—but was really unsure about the steepness of the driveway. Took the car over today to evaluate. Front cleared no problem and I thought I was all clear when I heard a giant SCRAPE from the back. Wasn't expecting that! Diffuser fin is pretty scraped up, but no big deal. I did have FAL engaged, so I'm now wondering if I could've cleared it with FAL off...


Old 04-24-2024, 05:28 AM
  #45  
JOSCAL
Instructor
 
JOSCAL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 236
Received 220 Likes on 117 Posts
Default

My driveway is pretty bad, 718 GT4 and 991.2 T without FAL scraped both front and rear. 992 Touring with FAL doesn’t so I find it most useful👌
The following 2 users liked this post by JOSCAL:
Diablo Dude (04-24-2024), wageslave (04-24-2024)


Quick Reply: FAL on 992 worthless...



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:04 PM.