if touring drives like winged, ppl will be disapointed but will not admit it
11-02-2021, 07:00 AM
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Was you’re RS setup by manthey or someone similar? I had mine setup by manthey originally and it was a pig on the road. Drove it out of the place and was like oh no… Got it changed shortly afterwards and now it’s a joy, and shockingly good and compliant on the road. Road noise is still a right pain though.
I suspect the 992.2 version will be the one to get but time will tell.
11-02-2021, 07:06 AM
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With all due respect, this sounds like an operator error or a mismatch of expectations. If it does not sound good and has no torque, you are in a gear too high - downshift, all the way to 1st if needed, and you get all the sound and the torque you need. And those rev-matched downshifts sound amazing, by the way. With correct shifting, it's traction-limited below 60MPH on real roads, so more torque just means more work for traction control. And if shifting correctly is a chore (which it sounds like) just get PDK - it will do it for you. And if revving high is a chore, this is the wrong car, because that's the whole point of it. And I do not mean it in a critical way - everyone has a different fetish of what an "exciting car" is, and GT3 is built for those for whom "exciting car" is where you rev it out and shift a lot, feeling like driving a race car.
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11-02-2021, 08:12 AM
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while driving in automatic mode i think the car wont let you dowsift from 2nd gear to first gear at 50kms/h (i may be wrong on that, i think i tried it once and it didnt worked). Also i am still in braking process, so i wont downsift to 1st year from 2nd gear in a hill driving at 60kms/h in 2nd gear, having to downsift to 1st gear is kinda crazy to my eyes ...
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11-02-2021, 09:25 AM
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while driving in automatic mode i think the car wont let you dowsift from 2nd gear to first gear at 50kms/h (i may be wrong on that, i think i tried it once and it didnt worked). Also i am still in braking process, so i wont downsift to 1st year from 2nd gear in a hill driving at 60kms/h in 2nd gear, having to downsift to 1st gear is kinda crazy to my eyes ...
Get your miles in, and when you feel good to drive the snot out of the car it’s a different experience MPOV. To your question wouldn’t let you down shift from 2nd to 1st because of the speed, again on the street get out of auto mode not fun unless over 4k of 5k unless you’re going to the market. Give it time and enjoy, or go drive a GT2RS will put your ***** on fire.
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11-02-2021, 10:16 AM
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I feel exactly the opposite. This car in touring would be much more liveable than previous generations. Compliant on the road, high tech creature comforts, and an uncompromising beast when the traffic clears and you twist the dial to track mode.
11-02-2021, 02:06 PM
#67
Joe, not sure if this is your first GT car not being judging? My first Porsche was a 991S and I hated the car until I learned how to drive it, and it didn’t help as I came from a M5 gobs of torque and power. Porsche have to be driven above 5k rpm to have fun to feel the car, and even more so in a GT car it’s necessary. My next car was the 991 GT3, and man I was in heaven only drove at track events and mountain roads. Drove in auto mode less 10% when on public roads, and auto mode on the track is the ticket as the car wants to be driven on the edge.
Get your miles in, and when you feel good to drive the snot out of the car it’s a different experience MPOV. To your question wouldn’t let you down shift from 2nd to 1st because of the speed, again on the street get out of auto mode not fun unless over 4k of 5k unless you’re going to the market. Give it time and enjoy, or go drive a GT2RS will put your ***** on fire.
Get your miles in, and when you feel good to drive the snot out of the car it’s a different experience MPOV. To your question wouldn’t let you down shift from 2nd to 1st because of the speed, again on the street get out of auto mode not fun unless over 4k of 5k unless you’re going to the market. Give it time and enjoy, or go drive a GT2RS will put your ***** on fire.
my main concern to not drive it in manual mode is the breakin process (i still havent done the 1,5k kms), i have a hard time knowing in which gear i am if i dont look at the dash and looking at the dash really distracts me a lot.
I have some great moments at the mountains btw
11-02-2021, 03:31 PM
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Personally I would much prefer if the touring had a more compliant suspension. I have an allocation for one and was a bit disappointed that the spring rates were not less on the Touring but I’ll keep my order as I think it’s gonna may be one of the last NA manual gearbox GT cars and I’ve always wanted one but have no use for the wing as I’ll never track the cat.
11-02-2021, 03:48 PM
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Personally I would much prefer if the touring had a more compliant suspension. I have an allocation for one and was a bit disappointed that the spring rates were not less on the Touring but I’ll keep my order as I think it’s gonna may be one of the last NA manual gearbox GT cars and I’ve always wanted one but have no use for the wing as I’ll never track the cat.
Not sure how difficult it will be to override the electronic systems that talk to PASM (there were solutions in the 991).
With the old strut front suspension this was actually a much bigger ordeal than with the new double-wishbones (just have to swap damper/spring, instead of entire wheel carrier that also changes caster/camber every time you mount).
Maybe keep the stock shocks, but use softer springs and custom software for damping (DSC Sport or similar).
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11-02-2021, 03:52 PM
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If someone is very unhappy with the stock suspension, it will be possible to fit custom coilovers with custom spring and damper rates (not cheap, but often better performance than stock).
Not sure how difficult it will be to override the electronic systems that talk to PASM (there were solutions in the 991).
Maybe keep the stock shocks, but use softer springs and custom software for damping (DSC Sport or similar).
Not sure how difficult it will be to override the electronic systems that talk to PASM (there were solutions in the 991).
Maybe keep the stock shocks, but use softer springs and custom software for damping (DSC Sport or similar).
I believe there was mention of a 992 controller forthcoming. I'd exhaust that route first, before swapping hardware.
11-02-2021, 03:54 PM
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That will make a difference, but you really want spring and damper rates matched for best performance (if spring rates are high and dampers soft, you get very underdamped shock performance which is not desirable). There is a window of adjustability, but if springs are nearly 100% stiffer than before, that is going to always be an issue for those who are sensitive to the firm ride.
11-02-2021, 04:02 PM
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That will make a difference, but you really want spring and damper rates matched for best performance (if spring rates are high and dampers soft, you get very underdamped shock performance which is not desirable). There is a window of adjustability, but if springs are nearly 100% stiffer than before, that is going to always be an issue for those who are sensitive to the firm ride.
11-02-2021, 04:42 PM
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Personally I would much prefer if the touring had a more compliant suspension. I have an allocation for one and was a bit disappointed that the spring rates were not less on the Touring but I’ll keep my order as I think it’s gonna may be one of the last NA manual gearbox GT cars and I’ve always wanted one but have no use for the wing as I’ll never track the cat.
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11-02-2021, 05:18 PM
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