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Who's harassing who? For my 2015, it well into the 991.1 GT3 production. I think many people will get their cars. Most will get them without an ADM; and still many others won't get one. I hope you're able to get whatever car you're after with good fortune. I also spec'd a 488 GTB and purchased it new. I don't exactly know what a 488GTS is?
Anyhow, buying a V8 Ferrari isn't necessarily hard nor special anymore. Nearly anyone could walk into a Ferrari dealer and buy a 488 back in 2018, 2019...and the F8 isn't anything spectacular either to demand any sort of waiting list. Sure the Pista and SF90 Stradale are sought after...but a 488, 812, Roma, Portofino, etc....not so much. Someone mentioned earlier about the value proposition of a GT3 being a sub-$200K vehicle....that bracket attracts a large buyer pool; less so once you cross $300K...the pool drops off the cliff.
And by the way, apologies to you if you think i am harassing you. After reading numerous posts from people boasting how they bought their GT3 without an ADM, I felt compelled to pile on. It is not my place to tell you what you already know. Please accept my apology earnestly.
And by the way, apologies to you if you think i am harassing you. After reading numerous posts from people boasting how they bought their GT3 without an ADM, I felt compelled to pile on. It is not my place to tell you what you already know. Please accept my apology earnestly.
its quite alright. Buying these cars can bring out the stresses in people. I just wonder if the replacement 994 GT3 will be a hybrid with PDK as the only option..
Sounds like you are not an expert of Ferraris, a GTS is the designation for the convertible. A lot of speculation on your part...so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not on any waiting list for a sought after $500k 812GTS...or a SF90, or an SF90GTS or a Pista Spyder. No question about the value proposition of the GT3, but to be honest with you I don’t get a lot people blowing hot air when they are talking about the $300k+ cars, especially a well spec 812GTS at $500k. You should feel fortunate and lucky that you are able to buy as many GT3’s that you have had and above all to be humble....
Pista Spider. 488 Spider. GTS wasnt really used for the 488 line- however the 812 calls the convertible GTS. Not sure what Topspeed is thinking but GTS has never been used for the 488. Its always been spider.
Pista Spider. 488 Spider. GTS wasnt really used for the 488 line- however the 812 calls the convertible GTS. Not sure what Topspeed is thinking but GTS has never been used for the 488. Its always been spider.
you must be right...i guess i don’t have a 488GTS and i guess i don’t have a 812gts.
its quite alright. Buying these cars can bring out the stresses in people. I just wonder if the replacement 994 GT3 will be a hybrid with PDK as the only option..
Originally Posted by motorwerksgroup
We are friends. I send them as many clients as possible via making connections (I'm in the high-end auto business as well) and have some mutual acquaintances. Not EVERY deal is as simple as how many cars you've bought or serviced. There is more to building a relationship than singular transactions. As I have stated, I have purchased 3 cars, now my upcoming forth....all spec'd by me, all at MSRP, none traded in. As I said, I've referred several of MY clients to him...and I have thousands in my business.
Motorwerksgroup - In what way are you affiliated with the Motor Werks Group in Illinois that owns Motor Werks Porsche of Barrington? ( https://www.motorwerks.com/ ) And, assuming you do have a relationship/ownership stake/employment/contractual agreement with Motor Werks Porsche of Barrington, has that relationship given you any advantages in your ability to order multiple Porsche GT cars (at MSRP) that most other buyers would not have?
you must be right...i guess i don’t have a 488GTS and i guess i don’t have a 812gts.
I dont know nor do I care what you have. A 488 convertible is called a Spider by Ferrari. An 812 convertible is called a GTS as I stated. For whatever reason the commonly used name with Ferrari with the 488 roofless option was spider, for the 458 Speciale it was Aperta and the Pista went back to Spider. For the 812 They used GTS
These crazy car companies and their nomenclature.
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really? Someone asked if anyone was getting these cars at MSRP. I answered. I would also be daring to say, that of the thousands of GT cars that will be produced, MOST buyers will likely get their cars without an ADM by the time the model cycle retires. The same held true for the 991.2 Manual cars...the ADM hype is amplified by forums such as this one, but the actual purchase poll that someone did on Rennlist just 4 years ago proved that most 991.2 cars that actually transacted were had at MSRP.
Got it so a RL poll asking people who paid ADM is now your fact base. Enough said is that is where you are getting your facts. EVERYTHING loves to post about the non ADM car they got. Not many post when they paid an ADM because either they are embarrassed or get blasted on said “factual” forum. Peace out. Enjoy your non ADM car but as I suspected there was more to your deal than just some random “good guy” dealer selling you GT cars at MSRP because you just popped in.
Sounds like you are not an expert of Ferraris, a GTS is the designation for the convertible. A lot of speculation on your part...so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not on any waiting list for a sought after $500k 812GTS...or a SF90, or an SF90GTS or a Pista Spyder. No question about the value proposition of the GT3, but to be honest with you I don’t get a lot people blowing hot air when they are talking about the $300k+ cars, especially a well spec 812GTS at $500k. You should feel fortunate and lucky that you are able to buy as many GT3’s that you have had and above all to be humble....
GTS designation is a removable targa top for Ferrari. Like my 1995 F355 GTS vs. my 1997 F355 SPIDER which designated a full convertible roof....i.e. Ferrari 488 Spider vs. my 488GTB (berlinetta or hard top). Pista Spider is a full convertible ("Aperta" in many referenced models). I'm have some knowledge of Ferraris, definitely not an expert, but have owned many, sold some, still have some.
Got it so a RL poll asking people who paid ADM is now your fact base. Enough said is that is where you are getting your facts. EVERYTHING loves to post about the non ADM car they got. Not many post when they paid an ADM because either they are embarrassed or get blasted on said “factual” forum. Peace out. Enjoy your non ADM car but as I suspected there was more to your deal than just some random “good guy” dealer selling you GT cars at MSRP because you just popped in.
Nope, just said that many that claim to have been paid MSRP stated so and some that paid an ADM stated so in that poll. Don't know why you're so hostile. These polls are some metrics that I'm drawing conclusions to. Just like the color poll...will most GT3s be Shark Blue? Poll on Rennlist suggest they might be....that doesn't mean it's gospel but demonstrates a trend. This IS a discussion forum; after all, everyone is drawing conclusions based on their own experiences and information.
BTW, there are several reports of people obtaining GT cars at MSRP without extensive buying/trading history, mostly from smaller dealers in small towns during the past 991.2 cycle. These people didn't give any special treatment, maybe their timing was right, maybe that dealer received additional allocations later in the cycle, but your insinuation that such transaction can't happen or their MUST be some sort of quid pro quo isn't always the case.
Last edited by motorwerksgroup; 03-16-2021 at 09:55 AM.
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