992 GT3 Touring Waiting Room
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Rxpert (02-17-2021)
#47
EXACTLY what I'm thinking...Well, I can only leave it up to fate now whether an allocation materializes or not, and if so whether ADM will be required...out of my hands at this point, looking forward to reviews galore, and for winter to go away already so I can drive mine...
#49
Sounds reasonable. US configurator supposed to be up for the masses on 3/31, and dealers can order 3/22....but this is just from folks who are #1 or #2 on lists saying their dealers have already confirmed these dates for them. So take that for what it is.
Other report is Touring will be available to order 2 months in, but wondering what, if any, monkey wrenches will be thrown into the early production of any of the GT3 variants that could throw this timeline off for all. My dealer saying that the allocations will come as a generic "gt3" and not slotted to be a 'touring' vs 'winged', so if the initial salvo of winged cars uses up some part that delays production, for sure the touring will be the first to be affected/delayed....and reading the forums we are all enthusiasts here and by my count it seems demand for touring is at least 50%, if not more...wonder if they expecting this kind of demand and will that delay things? Ugh....headache...hope it doesn't end up with some receiving the call - "have a winged gt3 allocation for you, take it or leave it?"...similar to some only being given the option of picking up a dealer-specced car, or one they were stuck with...
Other report is Touring will be available to order 2 months in, but wondering what, if any, monkey wrenches will be thrown into the early production of any of the GT3 variants that could throw this timeline off for all. My dealer saying that the allocations will come as a generic "gt3" and not slotted to be a 'touring' vs 'winged', so if the initial salvo of winged cars uses up some part that delays production, for sure the touring will be the first to be affected/delayed....and reading the forums we are all enthusiasts here and by my count it seems demand for touring is at least 50%, if not more...wonder if they expecting this kind of demand and will that delay things? Ugh....headache...hope it doesn't end up with some receiving the call - "have a winged gt3 allocation for you, take it or leave it?"...similar to some only being given the option of picking up a dealer-specced car, or one they were stuck with...
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#50
Completely changes the look if there were some slats to separate the catfish mouth. Whether they be vertical or angular, it wouldn't choke off so much airflow, and the tourings aren't going to be track rats anyway. The back plastic over the diffuse should be painted, too.
#51
I have a .2 Touring, but don't think the 992 will be worth the upgrade. Will it be better handling? Of course. That's why it's over 17 seconds faster at the Ring.
#52
Tyres account for a fair chunk of that difference. And yes the new car has better suspension. aero, more rubber on the ground.
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Crazy Canuck (04-15-2021)
#53
It's common theme that whenever a new gen is released, every owner of the now previous gen says something similar to "It's not any better than mine" or "not worth the upgrade" or "I like the aesthetics of mine better" or "the incremental power increase is negligible" etc etc.
I've done this too, it's human nature to defend your current possessions as to help talk yourself out of spending more ridiculous money on the next car....but as Porsche enthusiasts, let's be honest here, how often has Porsche released a new gen and it not been an incredible successor? 17 seconds off the previous gen 'Ring time? Quicker than the 4 year old GT3RS? Incremental improvements my ***. This new gen is an incredible improvement on paper already. And just wait for the driving reviews in the next month or two. The only valid argument one can have is aesthetics, because subjective. All the other reasons are feel better excuses.
I've done this too, it's human nature to defend your current possessions as to help talk yourself out of spending more ridiculous money on the next car....but as Porsche enthusiasts, let's be honest here, how often has Porsche released a new gen and it not been an incredible successor? 17 seconds off the previous gen 'Ring time? Quicker than the 4 year old GT3RS? Incremental improvements my ***. This new gen is an incredible improvement on paper already. And just wait for the driving reviews in the next month or two. The only valid argument one can have is aesthetics, because subjective. All the other reasons are feel better excuses.
Overall, I would say most touring buyers are a bit different. I wouldn't be surprised if most don't also have something aircooled in the garage as well. The GT3T is about having 9/10 of the experience in a more subtle/elegant package that will likely never see a track day.
As someone who primarily focuses on 89' and older 911's, I also have a passion for Porsche GT cars. But I truly love different examples from each generation. When it comes to the 991 generation, it's the 991.2 GT3T for me.
I also wouldn't trade any of my aircooled cars for a modern GT car. Are the modern GT cars arguably better in every way imaginable? Of course, but again it's about the experience and I really think that's what the touring buyers are after.
Unless the next touring provides something a bit more unique than the current gen, I could see many hanging on to the 991.2's. Especially since 991 values are so high and the rumor is that Porsche plans to make as many 992's as possible over the life cycle of the platform.
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#54
I agree with much of what you expressed here. I generally feel the same way and that's why I always have a "sit and wait" rule when it comes to purchases like these. Whether it's a car, a new watch, or whatever.. I'll just sit on it for a while and see if it still interests me once it's been on the market for 3, 6, 12 months. If it does, then I know it's for me. If not, then I dodged a hype bullet.
I'm not going to lie, this looks pretty damn good. I'm sort of realizing now that I really don't care for the new wing...
I'm not going to lie, this looks pretty damn good. I'm sort of realizing now that I really don't care for the new wing...
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#55
I definitely agree to a point. If we are talking strictly GT3, absolutely. The 992 GT3 is a worthy upgrade from the 991.2 GT3. If we are talking GT3T. We just don't know yet. Touring owners likely care much less about lap times or they would buy a winged car.
Overall, I would say most touring buyers are a bit different. I wouldn't be surprised if most don't also have something aircooled in the garage as well. The GT3T is about having 9/10 of the experience in a more subtle/elegant package that will likely never see a track day.
As someone who primarily focuses on 89' and older 911's, I also have a passion for Porsche GT cars. But I truly love different examples from each generation. When it comes to the 991 generation, it's the 991.2 GT3T for me.
I also wouldn't trade any of my aircooled cars for a modern GT car. Are the modern GT cars arguably better in every way imaginable? Of course, but again it's about the experience and I really think that's what the touring buyers are after.
Unless the next touring provides something a bit more unique than the current gen, I could see many hanging on to the 991.2's. Especially since 991 values are so high and the rumor is that Porsche plans to make as many 992's as possible over the life cycle of the platform.
Overall, I would say most touring buyers are a bit different. I wouldn't be surprised if most don't also have something aircooled in the garage as well. The GT3T is about having 9/10 of the experience in a more subtle/elegant package that will likely never see a track day.
As someone who primarily focuses on 89' and older 911's, I also have a passion for Porsche GT cars. But I truly love different examples from each generation. When it comes to the 991 generation, it's the 991.2 GT3T for me.
I also wouldn't trade any of my aircooled cars for a modern GT car. Are the modern GT cars arguably better in every way imaginable? Of course, but again it's about the experience and I really think that's what the touring buyers are after.
Unless the next touring provides something a bit more unique than the current gen, I could see many hanging on to the 991.2's. Especially since 991 values are so high and the rumor is that Porsche plans to make as many 992's as possible over the life cycle of the platform.
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PantsFire (02-25-2021)
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Sounds reasonable. US configurator supposed to be up for the masses on 3/31, and dealers can order 3/22....but this is just from folks who are #1 or #2 on lists saying their dealers have already confirmed these dates for them. So take that for what it is.
Other report is Touring will be available to order 2 months in, but wondering what, if any, monkey wrenches will be thrown into the early production of any of the GT3 variants that could throw this timeline off for all. My dealer saying that the allocations will come as a generic "gt3" and not slotted to be a 'touring' vs 'winged', so if the initial salvo of winged cars uses up some part that delays production, for sure the touring will be the first to be affected/delayed....and reading the forums we are all enthusiasts here and by my count it seems demand for touring is at least 50%, if not more...wonder if they expecting this kind of demand and will that delay things? Ugh....headache...hope it doesn't end up with some receiving the call - "have a winged gt3 allocation for you, take it or leave it?"...similar to some only being given the option of picking up a dealer-specced car, or one they were stuck with...
Other report is Touring will be available to order 2 months in, but wondering what, if any, monkey wrenches will be thrown into the early production of any of the GT3 variants that could throw this timeline off for all. My dealer saying that the allocations will come as a generic "gt3" and not slotted to be a 'touring' vs 'winged', so if the initial salvo of winged cars uses up some part that delays production, for sure the touring will be the first to be affected/delayed....and reading the forums we are all enthusiasts here and by my count it seems demand for touring is at least 50%, if not more...wonder if they expecting this kind of demand and will that delay things? Ugh....headache...hope it doesn't end up with some receiving the call - "have a winged gt3 allocation for you, take it or leave it?"...similar to some only being given the option of picking up a dealer-specced car, or one they were stuck with...
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impex4 (02-25-2021)
#59
My very close friend runs one of the larger PCNA dealer networks and he told me last week the Touring (even though it has not been officially launched yet) will be included in the first US production run along side the standard GT3 in July. Expect the first batch of Tourings in the US to arrive the same time as the first GT3s. I'm ordering my Touring end of March when US dealers are able to submit builds
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#60