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Old 05-15-2023 | 07:38 AM
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More times here:

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Old 05-15-2023 | 08:31 AM
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Sorry, I'm really not much into analysing track performance to the death. Isn't it about the fun, we're all going to have, driving this fantastic car on Road & Track?

Emotions, Fun & Heart first..... please - like in the graphic


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Old 05-15-2023 | 12:34 PM
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almost 3 seconds faster than 992 GT3 on 1:30 track. matching or outrunning cars with 40% more HP. impressive.
Old 05-15-2023 | 01:36 PM
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almost 3 seconds faster than 992 GT3 on 1:30 track. matching or outrunning cars with 40% more HP. impressive.
Could be wrong, but I suspect that 992 GT3 was on Cup 2 rather than Cup 2R.
Old 05-15-2023 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 550.spyder



Sorry, I'm really not much into analysing track performance to the death. Isn't it about the fun, we're all going to have, driving this fantastic car on Road & Track?

Emotions, Fun & Heart first..... please - like in the graphic
Good for you - I like the analysis, I like data, its one of the ways you both improve a car and your driving. A friction circle is a basic tool that tells you a lot about grip and driving performance. I find it interesting, stimulating, thoughtful and certainly fun to generate. You'll find many people that take part in any form of competition tend to look at data as it helps performance and reduces risk (crash, injury etc).

If you want fun and emotion in a Porsche try a Spyder RS or GT4 RS, better still how about a 981 Cayman GTS with only 340HP and 380Nm but a truck load more fun on real world public roads - anyhow the 992 GT3 RS is supposedly aimed at track rats, hence active aero, DRS and adjustable in cab suspension settings. Perhaps you could "heart" others to post friction circles to add to the debate? Noting to produce one takes, time, effort, understanding and to deliver a well balanced circle requires seat time, training and competition to consistently push a car to the limit of available grip. In other words it takes drive, commitment, resilience and determination.

You don't care for my analysis, equally, I don't care for your bland, one dimensional and trite emotions. What you see and feel as fun and emotions are very different to what I see as fun and emotions. Thats why humans as individuals can be very different and why they are capable of having different views and perspectives. Seemingly the exception to this humanist thought is the current US, which is driven by political group think of the dullest form leading to endemic political corruption of the crudest form.



The original. Its strange Porsche produce a track precision app with ability to export data to other packages. I wonder why people fit racelogic gear to their cars? its all a bit of a mystery

If people are so enamoured by downforce perhaps they should run out a buy a McMurtry Spierling that pulls 3G

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Old 05-15-2023 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Could be wrong, but I suspect that 992 GT3 was on Cup 2 rather than Cup 2R.
Almost certainly, these days (since Cup 2R for Porsche and to a lesser degree Cup 2) the tires make a huge difference, worse still in some tests burner tires are used. Thats why a tool like a friction circle is useful - e.g. for a 2 minute lap you get (at 10Hz), 1,200 data points. Moreover, you can determine the skill level of the driver and how hard the lap was driven. Its generally unambiguous.

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Old 05-16-2023 | 05:52 PM
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Old 05-16-2023 | 09:10 PM
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Saw this at my dealer. Looks great, better in the flesh than in photos. Doesn’t look too big, but has a very strong presence.



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Old 05-17-2023 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 550.spyder
Feel better? why don't you contribute something useful, it may have escaped your attention that this thread is located in the clearly labelled 992 GT3 RS technical discussion forum - you may not like data, but one way or another data is a valid contribution to the community in order to better understand the 992 GT3 RS, its potential as well as its limitations. A data driven opinion is far better than glib supposition.

I note nearly all the analytical guys have gone from this thread and the reasons are simple there are few to no meaningful technical discussions - thats a shame, because this site was good for that. However, over the last few years its drifted into a ADM/MSRP/PTS /Influencer drivel fest.

However, this in reality, mirrors the direction of Porsche developing niche lifestyle products. The 992 GT3 RS is a good example of this (in my view), its an emissions and road regulations constrained faux race car, the car world equivalent of the Upper Cretaceous heteromorph ammonites.

The emotions discussion forum is located toward the rear of Cosmopolitan magazine, perhaps you'll find some blistering insight there

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Old 05-17-2023 | 07:30 AM
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ALL your post, especially the last one show exactly your state of mind.

Honestly speaking...
With this attitude you SHOULDN'T participate in ANY forum.

Again. Very entertaining. But that's about all.



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Old 05-17-2023 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Saw this at my dealer. Looks great, better in the flesh than in photos. Doesn’t look too big, but has a very strong presence.


Needs painted hood, roof and spoiler end plates, per the original concept IMO.
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Old 05-17-2023 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 550.spyder
ALL your post, especially the last one show exactly your state of mind.

Honestly speaking...
With this attitude you SHOULDN'T participate in ANY forum.

Again. Very entertaining. But that's about all.

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Old 05-17-2023 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Needs painted hood, roof and spoiler end plates, per the original concept IMO.
Agree. They allow Tributes to be configured will painted roof and hood. Cannot get painted endplates, painted side intakes, wheel pinstripe or headlight pinstripe icw Tribute. I don't care about he pinstripes but will do endplates and intakes post delivery.
Old 05-17-2023 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by signes
Agree. They allow Tributes to be configured will painted roof and hood. Cannot get painted endplates, painted side intakes, wheel pinstripe or headlight pinstripe icw Tribute. I don't care about he pinstripes but will do endplates and intakes post delivery.
Congrats on securing one. I'm told CXX can do the endplates but there's a $10k minimum to engage them.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Congrats on securing one. I'm told CXX can do the endplates but there's a $10k minimum to engage them.
Got a list of what they would allow and was shot down. If you know of somebody who was approved to modify would be great to know.


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