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Old 10-16-2022 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercuriell
I think this is exactly what my GT3 Winged PDK achieves - to me its perfectly usable as a daily, its even quiet and purrs along on a good (smooth) freeway and is a fun drive around town. As far as my limited track experience is concerned its correction of oversteer makes it a far more confident experience in pushing back my own limits, far below that of the car. I guess my needs are similar to many GT3 owners and the RS will suit those who wish to further push the already excellent cornering abilities. YMMV.
The cars correction of oversteer? Not following what you mean there. I don't find my 991 GT3 to be easy to drive near the limit, but the challenge is part of the fun. The car is boring on track at 7/10ths, and gets better as you approach the limit. On the road, I'm at jail speeds if I'm even approaching 7/10ths.

For someone who wants drive their car on both track and road, I do think the 991 GT cars, and probably also the 992 GT3, are good choices. I think the 992 GT3 RS is very much tilted towards track use, and therefore more compromised for road use.
Old 10-16-2022 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Porsche offers many other 911 variants which are much better for road use (GT3, GTS, Turbo, etc.). Since this RS is available in only very limited supply, it would make sense for non-track guys to not buy it, and instead buy a different 911, so that track guys can buy it and track it.
This is the pinnacle of self centeredness. Why do you think another adult should give one singular f*ck about your opinion on what they buy? That's a serious question. I'd rather light my car on fire than care what a complete stranger thinks of my buying habits. You can buy any GT car you'd like - just get your checkbook out and stop worrying about others. Don't blame us just because you can't seem to find your wallet.
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Old 10-16-2022 | 05:37 PM
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This is the pinnacle of self centeredness. Why do you think another adult should give one singular f*ck about your opinion on what they buy? That's a serious question. I'd rather light my car on fire than care what a complete stranger thinks of my buying habits. You can buy any GT car you'd like - just get your checkbook out and stop worrying about others. Don't blame us just because you can't seem to find your wallet.
On the contrary, I'm thinking about how people's buying habits affect the ability of others to buy and the prices they pay. As I said, people are competing to get this car, people here aren't all 'supporting' each other. Don't be naïve.
Old 10-16-2022 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
On the contrary, I'm thinking about how people's buying habits affect the ability of others to buy and the prices they pay. As I said, people are competing to get this car, people here aren't all 'supporting' each other. Don't be naïve.
It's a $250k car, not food and basic shelter. I don't care what someone else pays, they don't need the car. They can either afford it or they can't. If they can't, there is zero negative impact on their actual life. Nobody gets hurt by not buying a GT car.

I don't think you're a good enough cook to deserve a range in your kitchen. There is a shortage of appliances in the country right now and better home cooks deserve your range more than you do. Please let someone else have it and you can use your microwave.

See how stupid that sounds?
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Old 10-16-2022 | 05:53 PM
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It's a $250k car, not food and basic shelter. I don't care what someone else pays, they don't need the car. They can either afford it or they can't. If they can't, there is zero negative impact on their actual life. Nobody gets hurt by not buying a GT car.

I don't think you're a good enough cook to deserve a range in your kitchen. There is a shortage of appliances in the country right now and better home cooks deserve your range more than you do. Please let someone else have it and you can use your microwave.

See how stupid that sounds?
What's stupid is your analogy.

If X is in short supply, and Y would actually meet your needs better than X, it's reasonable to buy Y and let the person who can make better use of X buy X.

Ironically, you seem to be a very self centered person and not even know it.
Old 10-16-2022 | 05:57 PM
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Just buy a winged 992 GT3. You pretty much said it's the sweet spot for you. The fact that the 992 RS is too hardocre for you doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the car. It's just not the car for you. And since the RS has so many faults in your eyes, it's one less person taking cars away from those that really want one. It's win win for you, and you'll sleep well knowing somebody that actually wants the car for what it is got one instead of you.

However, let's level here. Do you want the RS deep down because you know it's the top of the food chain no matter how big or small that margin is?
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Old 10-16-2022 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
What's stupid is your analogy.

If X is in short supply, and Y would actually meet your needs better than X, it's reasonable to buy Y and let the person who can make better use of X buy X.

Ironically, you seem to be a very self centered person and not even know it.
We're not going to agree. But what will happen is that I will have whatever car I decide to buy and you'll still be pretending to be the Robin Hood of supercars.
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Old 10-16-2022 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
What's stupid is your analogy.

If X is in short supply, and Y would actually meet your needs better than X, it's reasonable to buy Y and let the person who can make better use of X buy X.

Ironically, you seem to be a very self centered person and not even know it.

what you've posted sounds like socialism to me.
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Old 10-16-2022 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dark knight
what you've posted sounds like socialism to me.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Rationing = Socialism
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Old 10-16-2022 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by horns
Just buy a winged 992 GT3. You pretty much said it's the sweet spot for you. The fact that the 992 RS is too hardocre for you doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the car. It's just not the car for you. And since the RS has so many faults in your eyes, it's one less person taking cars away from those that really want one. It's win win for you, and you'll sleep well knowing somebody that actually wants the car for what it is got one instead of you.

However, let's level here. Do you want the RS deep down because you know it's the top of the food chain no matter how big or small that margin is?
You got it right the first time. I think the 992 GT3 is probably the better car for me - it's a lot faster than my 991.1 GT3, and the RS probably has too many compromises for my needs. I asked my dealer about getting a 992 GT3, and he said no allocations available (probably most of them bought by non-track guys!), so I told him to put me at the top of the list for the 992.2 GT3.

I don't care about being the top of the food chain, and the RS won't get there anyway, there are still faster cup cars out there.
Old 10-16-2022 | 06:33 PM
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I sensed the political undercurrent in some posts (which would explain some people getting very triggered by a guy who's expressing an opinion and has no say in who buys what car), but we're not allowed to discuss politics here ...
Old 10-16-2022 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Rationing = Socialism
It's even dumber than that. Even the most hardened socialists let the wealthy battle over luxury items without intervention. Heck, North Korea has their own 1%ers who live opulent lives.

Funny thing is, I've tracked and I've never gone to C&C. Won't ever, not my thing. Going fast around a track is an absolute riot. But it makes me no more worthy than anyone else to buy a GT car. Ridiculous.
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Old 10-16-2022 | 06:41 PM
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Wtf is this thread

i came from the 991 GT3 side to read about what the consensus is regarding 992 RS’ ring time is and instead am learning about RL member buying habits and different views of different peoples buying habits?!
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Old 10-16-2022 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CPS992
It's even dumber than that. Even the most hardened socialists let the wealthy battle over luxury items without intervention. Heck, North Korea has their own 1%ers who live opulent lives.

Funny thing is, I've tracked and I've never gone to C&C. Won't ever, not my thing. Going fast around a track is an absolute riot. But it makes me no more worthy than anyone else to buy a GT car. Ridiculous.
Same thing in China.

I wonder who the GT3 RS "Allocation Czar" would be?

Kevin Estre?
Nick Tandy?
Jochen Mass?
Jorge Bergmeister?
Michael Christensen?
Andreas Preuninger?

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Old 10-16-2022 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Same thing in China.
I wonder who the GT3 RS "Allocation Czar" would be?

Kevin Estre?
Nick Tandy?
Jochen Mass?
Jorge Bergmeister?
Michael Christensen?
Andreas Preuninger?
It'll be a round table comprised of your average middle aged track day guy who is no more a race car driver than the 20 handicapper is Tiger Woods.
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