a sign of future electrification of Porsche GT3 cars.....the Porsche Mission R



https://www.iracing.com/porsche-miss...eason-4-build/

 

I have a Cayenne turbo S at 570HP. It's actually pretty fun too.

 

Such a polite little boy.

 

Tire lip/curb protector is more pronounced than prior generations, no?

 

Looks like it. The tires on 992 Turbo (not Cup2s) have similarly massive rim protectors. Got to protect those expensive wheels (I have a $6K+ coffee table left from my 991.2 GT3RS).

 

Calling the car “Half Baked” may be a bit harsh.

This GT3RS spent more time in the wind tunnel than any prior GT3 car. >250 hours, yaw and pitch stimulations. That’s about 100 hours more than the standard 992 GT3.
The release is lacking a Nurburgring time. I get how that might feel half-baked or a rushed release. However, I suspect the times already set are massively ahead of the 991.2 GT3, but has a real shot at the fastest production car record (AMG GT Black and GT2RS MR). I totally understand Porsche waiting a few weeks to allow the temps to cool off, shave 3 seconds and break the record.

 

Let's face it, virtually any GT3 variant not driven on track is selling the car short. There is no substitute for being able to rip through 2nd-4th gears at WOT to 9k, multiple times a lap, for 15-30 minutes. That can't be done on virtually any public roads, for any sustained period. A simple 2nd or 3rd gear rip on a "cruise" is a joke for this car. While a "canyon cruise" is rewarding in a GT car, it's still selling the car short. They were all built for the race track, pure and simple (except maybe the Touring).

This new RS car is like a big onion. There are many layers to peel back, and finally, they went all the way and gave the hardcore track guys the adjustability they've always wanted. Sure, you can put it in "auto" mode and let the baseline setups work for you, but anybody who has competently set up their GT3 for the track with a manually adjustable shock package will tell you that the car is MUCH better by allowing you to change the cars handling behavior based on the track, conditions, tires, etc. etc.. Manthey is the perfect illustration of this.

The cries about "it should have been a 4.2, or bigger power increase instead of adjustable shocks" just doesn't get the point of the RS. These are the same people who typically have no clue about on track handling tuning basics, and just want more power so they can pass people on the straights, and win DE trophys. The lower final drive is going to make this car accelerate alot harder than the standard GT3 at lower speeds where aero drag isn't much of a concern. The rear tire is just a few mm taller than the outgoing, so AP's comment is a bit misleading, it's still a lower final drive overall and will provide better acceleration, and power to the ground. There has literally never been a time when I'm on track in my 991.2 GT3 and am thinking, gee, I wish I had 50hp more. That has never happended. These cars are already crazy fast. As fast as any non-pro needs them to be on track. If you want mind-blowing acceleration, then either buck up for a GT2, or go to the drag strip.

The aero is phenomenal. At most tracks in the USA and Europe, there aren't huge long straights or sections like the N-ring. That's why they designed it this way, to accel at normal racetracks. It will be faster, alot faster, than a standard 992 GT3 or 991.2RS at any track. For those who even have basic knowledge of how to utilize the adjustability of the LSD and shocks, it will be even faster, or more rewarding to drive.

I've been, and still am a hard-core 6-spd MT guy. Never owned a single Dual Clutch car. This is literally the first car I've ever wanted that wasn't a manual. And it's all because of the other technology that is solely for the purpose of going faster on the track. This car might help weed out some who always wanted bragging rights by owning an "RS", because now it's so "hardcore". Well for track guys, it's not too hard-core at all. The 992 GT3 is the replacement for the 991.2 RS, but less expensive and with less compromises. Sounds like some people on here are much better suited for a standard GT3 now. This new RS is like a new category in-itself. Posers not wanted.

 

So when opting for the Weissach pack and PTS can you get the hood & roof painted like the non-WP cars, or do you have to live with the 'bare carbon' look? Also, can the Magnesium wheels be black?

Asking for a friend...

 

Delivery schedule - if it can’t be delivered by a certain date I will be going in another direction.

Ring time - if it’s marketed as a track bruiser it should be able to deliver an impressive ring time. If it can’t, it’s little more than the Porsche version of a Type R 😀.

I happen to think it will deliver a good time, certainly better than 6:49 (20.6km) on road legal tires with OEM alignment.

At the end of the day the ring time is simply another metric that defines performance - it’s a good way of showing the sum of the parts outcome.

Porsche/MR have the ring broken down into many RnD sectors and race sectors. They already know what it’s best sectors time is. They undoubtedly want to deliver on that.

At the end of the day a lap time is the ultimate reality check.

 

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who says 4.2 instead of adjustable shocks ?

We can want both !?

let me to show you what we can do with a simple 991.1 GT3 RS

 

I've been wondering the same thing about the hood and roof. Exposed carbon in those areas (particularly the hood) looks horrible to my eyes on anything but black or dark colored cars.

I sometimes wonder if the launch car was a non-WP because it looks better (wheels aside).

 

Agreed, both would be nice, but I'm not upset that 4.2 isn't happening with 991.1 RS.
Honestly, if I don't get a 992 RS allocation (which I am told I am supposed to get), then I'll prob be looking for a 991.1 to fully mod and build to my liking. If there is such a thing as value in the RS market, it's the 991.1 right now IMO.

 

Pretty much anything is possible with the exclusive manufactur department. Ask your sales associate about it. The paint on hood should not be a problem at all. But you’ll probably have to pay more for it and possibly wait longer. The wheels should be easy to do as well. But you’ll have to pay more for it and possibly wait a bit longer (see a pattern?)

The stuff that is unlikely is asking for the inner ring of the headlight to be painted in your PTS+ color. But if you have the $ and time, they can do a lot of things you might not think possible.

 

That's what I figured...thank you!

 

Black magnesium wheels is a $600 option on the configurator.