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Old 08-09-2020, 02:22 AM
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My guess is 520-530 PS...maybe the RS hits 550...
Old 08-09-2020, 03:28 AM
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500 HP is plenty.
pits a nice balance on a 911.
I have a GT3T and a 991.2GT3RS it’s a great combo and I have never thought I need more power then they have on either car.
the GT2 RS has what 700 odd HP and yes I have driven one it’s ridiculous in a straight line but I have never felt I need an extra 50 or 100 horses in the RS or more down force.
For me I’m looking more at keeping the cars new and styling more then power.
that would be my only reason to upgrade and they are going to have to be super special to replace my two with new ones.
Old 08-09-2020, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
Agree with this
Also agree. The 992 GT3 will have about what the outgoing RS has and I’d imagine 440-450 for the RS.
Old 08-09-2020, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mr gregash
Also agree. The 992 GT3 will have about what the outgoing RS has and I’d imagine 540-550 for the RS.
As a data point on the last generation change, the new GT3 had 25hp more than the outgoing RS (not including the limited 4.0)...
Old 08-09-2020, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
As a data point on the last generation change, the new GT3 had 25hp more than the outgoing RS (not including the limited 4.0)...
That's a good point, but quite a change from the Mezger engine and which did not end up well requiring a major revamp and the larger 4.0 engine.
Old 08-09-2020, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
Clickbait pseudojournalist.

992.1 GT3 will not come with 550hp. I'll be happy to bet you a thousand dollars that it won't
That's what the article says. Guess it depends on how you classify it. As is, realize the 991.2 GT3 has 520 hp at speed with ram air. A 30 hp increase from there is not crazy to ponder.
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chance6
That's what the article says. Guess it depends on how you classify it. As is, realize the 991.2 GT3 has 520 hp at speed with ram air. A 30 hp increase from there is not crazy to ponder.
Articles making predictions do not have a history of accuracy in this business. You cannot include ram-air gains as part of the power rating. Porsche does not. Otherwise, the car would make a different amount of power in each gear and it couldn't make its promised power on a dyno.
Old 08-09-2020, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
As a data point on the last generation change, the new GT3 had 25hp more than the outgoing RS (not including the limited 4.0)...
Originally Posted by 993RR
That's a good point, but quite a change from the Mezger engine and which did not end up well requiring a major revamp and the larger 4.0 engine.
Exactly, Porsche tried to push a regular (non motorsport) engine too far with the 991.1 GT3 (I don't buy finger follower as the only issue in that engine). Porsche learned their lesson and won't do that again with the 992 GT3. Plus they have this newish 4.0L motorsport engine in which they invested so much. I can see it getting the 992.1 GT3 getting to 525 hp so it technically more hp than the last RS, but not much more than that.
For two reasons, Porsche got bit last time pushing an engine too far, and two because the 992 GT3 will compete in a different market than the 991 as basically all of the 992 GT3 competitors have gone turbo and/or DCT. The 992 GT3 will literally be the only high revving, NA, 500HP+ sports car with a manual option. And the only one that is relatively lightweight. So the 992 model will be more about marketing the increased downforce, updated suspenion, weight, better infotainment, etc, than it will be about a massive power increase (which is not going to happen).

Originally Posted by GrantG
Articles do not have a history of accuracy in this business. You cannot include ram-air gains as part of the power rating. Porsche does not. Otherwise, the car would make a different amount of power in each gear and it couldn't make its promised power on a dyno.
Agree with Grant. Ferrari and (in the pre VW days) Lambo would lie their *** off regarding the power figure, or include hp numbers that cannot be achieved on a dyno, and only theoretical power gains at high speed.
You can't include ram air gains as part of the power rating.

Check out my .2 GT3 vs 458 dyno threat on the 991 GT car forum. Demonstrates just how pathetic it is to lie about that, until you get caught with dyno results like Ferrari has, as those independent dyno figures demonstrate far less power than was claimed by Ferrari.
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Agree with Grant. Ferrari and (in the pre VW days) Lambo would lie their *** off regarding the power figure, or include hp numbers that cannot be achieved on a dyno, and only theoretical power gains at high speed.
You can't include ram air gains as part of the power rating.

Check out my .2 GT3 vs 458 dyno threat on the 991 GT car forum. Demonstrates just how pathetic it is to lie about that, until you get caught with dyno results like Ferrari has, as those independent dyno figures demonstrate far less power than was claimed by Ferrari.[/QUOTE]

You can't quote it by the rules, but the 991.2 car is making 520 hp at high speed.
I'd expect a likewise comparo of 545-550 hp at high speed on the 992 GT3, which is really incredible for a relatively lightweight NA car with a 6-cylinder. Terrible gas mileage but it is what it is.
Old 08-16-2020, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
For two reasons, Porsche got bit last time pushing an engine too far, and two because the 992 GT3 will compete in a different market than the 991 as basically all of the 992 GT3 competitors have gone turbo and/or DCT. The 992 GT3 will literally be the only high revving, NA, 500HP+ sports car with a manual option. And the only one that is relatively lightweight. So the 992 model will be more about marketing the increased downforce, updated suspenion, weight, better infotainment, etc, than it will be about a massive power increase (which is not going to happen).
Agreed. They will continue with incremental power gains in the 992 generation, but they aren’t really necessary IMO - the car has a strong USP and the other characteristics are easier avenues for (numerically assessed) improvement as well as marketing.



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