A lot of "stupid" in one little post.

 

Let's not turn this into Facebook but the recent lack of upward mobility in America is well documented. It is interesting that the same folks who believe that communism CREATES sloth are blind to oligarchy and grossly unequal distribution of wealth and opportunity's similar effect but instead blame the young victims calling them lazy.

 

I think I'm on the younger side in the forum at 35, but I can tell you that even five years ago I would never have dreamed that I could afford a Porsche, let alone two of them and live where I do.

it wasn't that I had a better education, or opportunities. I had the opposite.

i was and am willing to do things other people won't.

If some of these people decided they wanted to show up early, work late, do things that make them uncomfortable, and build themselves up, then perhaps they wouldn't have time to protest because they'd be too busy becoming successful.

 

Why are we talking about this as if it is US-centric. Radicals in Europe have been around for ages. It is just another industry. They claim they want to destroy everything that is against capitalism and next thing you see, they are tenured professors somewhere. It is as if they have to do these violent acts against property to pad their resumes. Call me a cynic but they are all capitalists in the end

 

So you MUST be part of the oligarchy. You obviously now are part of the rich and powerful; And you were by your own admission given "rewards" by the government you now rally against. Oh BTW they are not free and never are. Someone always pays.

 

EXCELLENT> That is 100% my point! Well done to you BTW Johnny you should be proud. Hard work wow what a concept huh.

 

Boo Hoo Hoo. Of course there is unequal distribution of wealth. Some people work harder, prepare better, and maybe smarter than others. What's with this "young victims" stuff? Are you saying that people that destroy others property are somehow victims and their actions justified?

 

Germany (well, everywhere) needs the Riot Act.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_Act

The idea of letting "protestors" (actually Rioters) destroy property without forceful removal and disbursement is unconscionable.

At best it results in disturbances and damage like the above, if it happens in certain areas, it results in violence by the local citizens protecting their lives and property (see, e.g., Katrina, the L.A. riots etc.).

 

"owners of those Porsche's won't be out a dime" >> Except that car insurance in Germany normally doesn't cover vandalism. Plus there is always the war clause which doesn't cover invasion, insurrection, revolution, military coup and terrorism. So who knows if they will be out any money.

These protesters have been in HH for months. An extra temporary "prison" was built on the outskirts of town, extra police brought in from all over Germany, lots of preparation but still not enough.

I was there in April and they were already experiencing expensive car fires and the protestors were quietly arriving.

 

Really? Then how come the statistics show that the death of the middle class is more a result of people moving upwards than moving downwards? There is definitely more income inequality than in previous generations, but the idea that nobody other than a small minority of uber wealthy people are getting ahead is nonsense. More people have moved upwards out of the so-called middle class than have move downward. Anyone who is reasonably smart and willing to work their tail off can still get ahead in this country. Of course, if one doesn't believe they can, they've already lost.

 

Not an act of war and not the first time this has happened. Insurance will cover all of it. These losers are losers because they're not too bright to being with. What they're doing it the equivalent of punching a weeble wobble and having it rotate back up and hit them in the face.

 

Education, discipline and self respect go a long way. I believe if you show these hugs a path to do something above board they can be proud of then it would transform their views. Most crime is because these people have never been taught another way to get what they want in life. Some people just need to be locked up.... that will never change.

 

36 here. Grew up poor, joined army after high school.... took some sh!tty jobs and learned how to always be learning and looking for better ways to solve problems. In high school I wrote a paper about my dream car.... a 2-4 year old Honda Accord Coupe or Prelude... These were way out of what what in consideration for my family growing up based on my parents' finances and their decision for mom to stay home with is and give us spankins with a wooden paddle that dad made after she for tired of breaking kitchen utensils.

 

This wasn't done by "protestors." Protestors protest, rioters vandalize. This was done, as Guzzgreg suggests, by specific subversive elements with specific political backing, possibly financial as well.

We see exactly the same thing up here in the Seattle area. Anytime there's a WTO or other trade meeting in town, busloads of young "student activists" (read: trust-fund anarchists) arrive from various private colleges in the Oregon/Washington area. They break a few windows at the Nike store, trash a Starbucks or two, and slink away as quietly as they arrived.

I'm sure this is exactly the same phenomenon. This particular bull**** goes back at least as far as the 1960s, long before the EU even existed.

 

Actually it goes back a lot further to the early 1900s when communism took hold in Russia. A lot of these demonstrations are anti capitalist in nature. Hamburg has lots of socialists and communists. You just have to wonder if these demonstrators love communism so much, why don't they move to Russia.