991.1 Vs Cayman S
07-03-2017, 04:09 PM
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The only exception would be a base 991 vs a 981S. The difference between those two cars is tiny, and the driver will easily be the determining factor as to which car will have a quicker lap. Porsche addressed this issue with the next iteration by claiming that only a 4 cyl engine could fit into a 718.
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Again - fun factor could be different but not tests based on data.
07-03-2017, 04:30 PM
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Are you certain that any new GT4s were sold in the US in 2016? I thought 2015 was the last model year for the GT4, Here are the 2017 Cayman sales from the Porsche website:
Cayman April Sales 2017: ( 215) vs. 2016: (449) (April % Change -52.1%) Year to Date % Change: (-29.8%)
Cayman April Sales 2017: ( 215) vs. 2016: (449) (April % Change -52.1%) Year to Date % Change: (-29.8%)
07-03-2017, 06:03 PM
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07-03-2017, 06:21 PM
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I've had a 981 Cayman S and now this 991.1 C2S. Many of these comments are right on. I'd offer a 991.1 GTS but have not been able to find one with my option preferences.
The 991.1 does feel more planted and faster. The 911 front cabin area is a bit larger, and it's also a bit easier to get my big shoes in and out. It feels larger and maybe a touch more luxurious. Also owning a Cayenne and a Macan since retiring 3-1/2 years ago, I can also tell you the Bose sounds a bit better, the larger the cabin. All 4 of them had the Bose option and the sound quality definitely improves as the interior gets bigger. The Cayman model feels a bit smaller with a bit less power, and a bit looser than the comparable 991.1 model. But don't get me wrong, I loved my Cayman S. It was agile, quick and well balanced, and easy to control.
My eyes can't take the sun in an open top Boxster or a 911 Cab or Targa. The lack of a dark glass sunroof option on the Cayman is a bummer for me. I love driving with it tilted up in back, except on the Interstates, and it helps cool the car when parked in the sun and when taking off after parking for a while.
You could buy an awesome almost new CPO Cayman GTS at the bottom of your budget range and most late model CPO 991.1's would also fit in your budget range. The choice is yours. They are both great Porsche sports cars.
The 991.1 does feel more planted and faster. The 911 front cabin area is a bit larger, and it's also a bit easier to get my big shoes in and out. It feels larger and maybe a touch more luxurious. Also owning a Cayenne and a Macan since retiring 3-1/2 years ago, I can also tell you the Bose sounds a bit better, the larger the cabin. All 4 of them had the Bose option and the sound quality definitely improves as the interior gets bigger. The Cayman model feels a bit smaller with a bit less power, and a bit looser than the comparable 991.1 model. But don't get me wrong, I loved my Cayman S. It was agile, quick and well balanced, and easy to control.
My eyes can't take the sun in an open top Boxster or a 911 Cab or Targa. The lack of a dark glass sunroof option on the Cayman is a bummer for me. I love driving with it tilted up in back, except on the Interstates, and it helps cool the car when parked in the sun and when taking off after parking for a while.
You could buy an awesome almost new CPO Cayman GTS at the bottom of your budget range and most late model CPO 991.1's would also fit in your budget range. The choice is yours. They are both great Porsche sports cars.
07-03-2017, 06:23 PM
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It's easy to mock the stoplight drag race, but honestly, that's one of the few places a lot of us regularly get to have fun with our cars. When I'm fast off the start at a stoplight, I'm not actually racing anyone. I'm just taking my fun where I can get it. If I drove it like a Civic I might as well be driving a Civic and save myself the expense. (Not that Civics are bad cars, they're extremely functional, and get a fair bit out of a relatively tiny engine).
Other than that, it's freeway onramps. Or a windy road if you have one locally. Which not all of us do; I don't live off Mulholland Drive anymore.
07-03-2017, 06:35 PM
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Team - Look - the 911 of any generation is going to outperform any Cayman of that same generation and most caymans from the newer gen or two. Porsche did this intentionally. If Porsche gave the Cayman the same suspension technology it would be a different conversation in terms of handling but they didn't.
Both the 911 and the Cayman are very competent sports cars, and my Cayman has worked great as my only car (although I don't drive to work, so it's a DD that I don't drive every day...). The Cayman doesn't have rear seats, but otherwise, it has plenty of cargo space, even for long weekends away for my wife and I. The 911 also has great practicality and a great driving experience - hard to go wrong with either car.
07-03-2017, 07:18 PM
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Perhaps it's poor form for me to come here and say this, but as much as people say that 911s will outperform Caymans, my base Cayman sure passes a lot of 911's on the track
Both the 911 and the Cayman are very competent sports cars, and my Cayman has worked great as my only car (although I don't drive to work, so it's a DD that I don't drive every day...). The Cayman doesn't have rear seats, but otherwise, it has plenty of cargo space, even for long weekends away for my wife and I. The 911 also has great practicality and a great driving experience - hard to go wrong with either car.
Both the 911 and the Cayman are very competent sports cars, and my Cayman has worked great as my only car (although I don't drive to work, so it's a DD that I don't drive every day...). The Cayman doesn't have rear seats, but otherwise, it has plenty of cargo space, even for long weekends away for my wife and I. The 911 also has great practicality and a great driving experience - hard to go wrong with either car.
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07-03-2017, 07:24 PM
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I was comparing street cars (my Cayman is pretty much stock and I do tend to be pretty risk averse - because I have to drive my car home!).
07-03-2017, 07:40 PM
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I would say an E30 or Miata prepped for either Spec class is a different story - because in that case you're comparing a race-prepped car against a street car. With the race modifications, a Spec E30 or Miata can be a very fast car indeed (low hp sure, but with the right tires and chassis, you can carry a ton of momentum through a corner).
I was comparing street cars (my Cayman is pretty much stock and I do tend to be pretty risk averse - because I have to drive my car home!).
I was comparing street cars (my Cayman is pretty much stock and I do tend to be pretty risk averse - because I have to drive my car home!).
His brakes were so toasted I was concerned about his drive home.
07-03-2017, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by white924s
You should look into DE events in the area - after a couple days at a real track, the stop light Grand Prix won't be that interesting any more. Plus (in my opinion) you'll have more fun with your car than you ever did before, it's really amazing how much these cars can do at the limit..
07-03-2017, 09:31 PM
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Perhaps it's poor form for me to come here and say this, but as much as people say that 911s will outperform Caymans, my base Cayman sure passes a lot of 911's on the track
07-03-2017, 10:23 PM
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07-03-2017, 10:59 PM
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If you don't need a back seat and money is a factor, I'd recommend the Cayman. You can easily get a 981 base Cayman for under $40K. On the other hand if you can swing it financially, a 991 would be a great choice but it will cost you about $30K more. In either case I'd recommend getting a CPO Porsche. They cost more but the peace of mind is worth the added premium.