International Engine of the Year Awards 2017
06-25-2017, 10:27 AM
#32
The tone of this thread is odd. I wonder if some of you ever have fun on forums.
The Porsche 9A2 design picking up two awards is a big deal. The 3.0 9A2B6 knocked out the BMW S55 last year and gets back to back 2.5 - 3.0 liter awards.
The 2.0 9A2B4 knocks out the Mercedes-AMG M133 which had three straight wins in its displacement category.
Oh, and the Porsche 3.8 someone is talking about never won anything.
06-25-2017, 10:29 AM
#33
Is that a crack at the sound of the 3.0tt?
Also - I don't see enough diversity amongst the winners...
Additionally - so you strapped on turbos and made power - so shocking....
The 3.8 was and will always be a marvel in the same way the S54 was for the BMW crowd. The new Porsche 4.0 is also going to be an engineering marvel but won't get the attention because its not 600hp for the money. Audi's V10 (NA) should also be included. The Audi and GT3 punch so far above their weight!
Also - I don't see enough diversity amongst the winners...
Additionally - so you strapped on turbos and made power - so shocking....
The 3.8 was and will always be a marvel in the same way the S54 was for the BMW crowd. The new Porsche 4.0 is also going to be an engineering marvel but won't get the attention because its not 600hp for the money. Audi's V10 (NA) should also be included. The Audi and GT3 punch so far above their weight!
The S54 won its class for six straight years by the way while competing against larger Porsche motors...
The idea that you think it is about outright power is laughable.
06-25-2017, 11:06 AM
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06-25-2017, 12:41 PM
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I never said the 3.8 was a screamer. As a matter of fact, it never impressed me or the judges at the International Engine of the Year Awards it seems.
I fondly remember my E46 M3 and all the S54 victories against Porsche in particular.
The Audi 5.2 V10 is included btw maybe do some research?
The GT3 4.0 may very well win its class next year although they seem to be enamored with the Ferrari F154.
06-25-2017, 07:54 PM
#36
So congratulations to Porsche on the win.
I drove a new 911 base and it was quick and efficient but not emotionally engaging for ME!
If a want a quiet appliance, I'll get a Tesla with a ludicrous mode.
I need drama.
The loudness and linear acceleration of the 3.8 did it for me. The way I see it, we got in at the end of the NA "grand finale!"
I drove a new 911 base and it was quick and efficient but not emotionally engaging for ME!
If a want a quiet appliance, I'll get a Tesla with a ludicrous mode.
I need drama.
The loudness and linear acceleration of the 3.8 did it for me. The way I see it, we got in at the end of the NA "grand finale!"
06-25-2017, 08:17 PM
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Ideally GT3 engine and GT4 transmission issues would have been caught by test drivers, not by customers. This implies to me not enough testing, which implies not enough time and money dedicated to GT development (budget).
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06-26-2017, 07:10 AM
#38
So congratulations to Porsche on the win.
I drove a new 911 base and it was quick and efficient but not emotionally engaging for ME!
If a want a quiet appliance, I'll get a Tesla with a ludicrous mode.
I need drama.
The loudness and linear acceleration of the 3.8 did it for me. The way I see it, we got in at the end of the NA "grand finale!"
I drove a new 911 base and it was quick and efficient but not emotionally engaging for ME!
If a want a quiet appliance, I'll get a Tesla with a ludicrous mode.
I need drama.
The loudness and linear acceleration of the 3.8 did it for me. The way I see it, we got in at the end of the NA "grand finale!"
All the 3.8 happens to be is slower and replaced. If a huge torque punch down low isn't engaging you are just deluding yourself.
Want drama? Line up next to any 3.0 in your 3.8 and we'll get plenty of drama on the forums I'm sure as you try to explain away what happened.
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06-26-2017, 09:30 AM
#39
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GT3 owners get the NA grand finale. You aren't.
All the 3.8 happens to be is slower and replaced. If a huge torque punch down low isn't engaging you are just deluding yourself.
Want drama? Line up next to any 3.0 in your 3.8 and we'll get plenty of drama on the forums I'm sure as you try to explain away what happened.
All the 3.8 happens to be is slower and replaced. If a huge torque punch down low isn't engaging you are just deluding yourself.
Want drama? Line up next to any 3.0 in your 3.8 and we'll get plenty of drama on the forums I'm sure as you try to explain away what happened.
By the way, I did drive a .1 with the X51 Powerkit and loved it...but it was not within my budget.
06-26-2017, 10:15 AM
#40
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PSE! Much quieter without it.
06-26-2017, 01:42 PM
#41
All the gasoline engine happens to be is slower and replaced. If a huge torque punch down low isn't engaging you are just deluding yourself.
Want drama? Line up next to any tesla in your gasoline engine and we'll get plenty of drama on the forums I'm sure as you try to explain away what happened.
Want drama? Line up next to any tesla in your gasoline engine and we'll get plenty of drama on the forums I'm sure as you try to explain away what happened.
06-26-2017, 03:42 PM
#43
Unfortunately the rest of us have to put up with driving around minding our own business while other drivers are like "hey there's another dbag Porsh driver like the one I saw trying to race a Tesla on the street last week, cut him off!"
06-26-2017, 07:33 PM
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Ah I didn't even think to apply liberal nonsense to engineering awards.
I never said the 3.8 was a screamer. As a matter of fact, it never impressed me or the judges at the International Engine of the Year Awards it seems.
I fondly remember my E46 M3 and all the S54 victories against Porsche in particular.
The Audi 5.2 V10 is included btw maybe do some research?
The GT3 4.0 may very well win its class next year although they seem to be enamored with the Ferrari F154.
I never said the 3.8 was a screamer. As a matter of fact, it never impressed me or the judges at the International Engine of the Year Awards it seems.
I fondly remember my E46 M3 and all the S54 victories against Porsche in particular.
The Audi 5.2 V10 is included btw maybe do some research?
The GT3 4.0 may very well win its class next year although they seem to be enamored with the Ferrari F154.
i'll go on record with stating that I believe the 3.8 to be a screamer
. I love it.and I'm very far from liberal...
06-26-2017, 09:01 PM
#45
Originally Posted by sticky
GT3 owners get the NA grand finale. You do not.
All the 3.8 happens to be is slower and replaced. If a huge torque punch down low isn't engaging you are just deluding yourself.
Want drama? Line up next to any 3.0 in your 3.8 and we'll get plenty of drama on the forums I'm sure as you try to explain away what happened.
All the 3.8 happens to be is slower and replaced. If a huge torque punch down low isn't engaging you are just deluding yourself.
Want drama? Line up next to any 3.0 in your 3.8 and we'll get plenty of drama on the forums I'm sure as you try to explain away what happened.
Let me be clear again, the 3.0's performance superiority is undisputed. So buy one and win the traffic light races, good on you!
I could have bought a new .2 but was absolutely disappointed with how indifferent it felt. It executed everything with ruthless precision and ability but was not emotionally engaging for ME! If YOU like it, get it.
We all vote with our wallets.
As for the "NA grand finale" you are correct, the GT3 it is, at least for now. Happy now?