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Old 04-23-2017, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Key Left
I think that you are missing a point.
Ceramic coatings fully bond with the clear coat paint. What does that mean? If you sustain any dent or scratch , in order to repair you must sand the ceramic coating off before any repair can be performed , unlike wax which can be wiped right off. Are we comfortable with sanding down our paint , and how big an area and how far?
They are not permanent coatings. Can be removed safely. They use some sort of alcohol solution to wipe off.

Not sure what this sanding part is about. ANY repaint requires sanding as prep.

There is soooooo much confusion regarding these coatings and paint protraction film ((PPF).
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You can't just wipe it off, it's bonded within the paint molecules, but only a few microns. You are correct that any normal paint prep will remove it.
Old 04-23-2017, 05:18 PM
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LexVan - Just curious - why are you re-applying every 2 years? I thought Opti-Coat had a 5 year warranty?
Old 04-23-2017, 05:31 PM
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I have gtechniq. Love it. Cost was a grand. 7 year warranty
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LexVan - Just curious - why are you re-applying every 2 years? I thought Opti-Coat had a 5 year warranty?
I like the paint correction every other year to make it near perfect again.
Old 04-23-2017, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
They are not permanent coatings. Can be removed safely. They use some sort of alcohol solution to wipe off.

Not sure what this sanding part is about. ANY repaint requires sanding as prep.

There is soooooo much confusion regarding these coatings and paint protraction film ((PPF).
Please check out the PCA's latest video on ceramic coatings moderated​ by our president. You must sand the ceramic coating off prior to any repair commencing. There is no substitute​.
Old 04-23-2017, 06:26 PM
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You're in agreement with STG. ANY repainting requires sanding anyway.
Old 04-23-2017, 09:02 PM
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I have Optic Pro including over my front Expel wrap and am very pleased.
Suggest having the wheel barrels coated also. Cleaning is much easier
So far looks great on my black 911.
Old 04-23-2017, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 4pipes
You're in agreement with STG. ANY repainting requires sanding anyway.
Perhaps? But repairs to the clear coat alone or pop out dents are in question. The more layers of permanence you create the more work and expense occurs. Keep it simple.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
I have OptiCoat Pro. Very happy with it. Done in early 2014 and again late 2015. Plan to have it redone every 2 years. Prep and paint correction are the key.
Gotcha - thanks. I understand that with Ceramic Pro, you have to do a yearly inspection which could require reapplication. I'm still trying to figure all of that out. I've read and read and read and am just trying to educate myself the best I can. I appreciate yours and others feedback and insight.
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Speaking to someone at Suncoast, he mentioned that the Xpel clear bras may yellow after 2 years and it needs to be redone? True? I have an agate grey, would it noticeable?
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Originally Posted by pashaj
Speaking to someone at Suncoast, he mentioned that the Xpel clear bras may yellow after 2 years and it needs to be redone? True? I have an agate grey, would it noticeable?
No. And no.
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My Miami Blue car was very difficult to polish for some reason, only the Porsche Hard Wax worked and the 3M polish i usually use on all my cars was tough to get on and off. The car had started getting significant swirl marks within a couple of months. I had it prepped and ceramic coated which made a huge difference in the gloss and shine. I stll polish it because of our very dusty climate, but the polish is very easy to get on and off now and keeps the surface slippery so that dust flies off and doesn't stick.
Old 04-24-2017, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 4pipes
You're in agreement with STG. ANY repainting requires sanding anyway.
Yes, but where do you stop sanding away the ceramic coating to make new paint adhere?
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I believe just polishing will remove the coating.


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