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Old 04-26-2017, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sechsgang
The cost, the slightly unnerving feeling of stability it provides and questionable upside if that's your kind of thing.
Unnerving as in extremely stable but slightly more disconnected?
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Very nice. That's a PASM car, not a SPASM car, correct?
You know what? I got very confused by the whole thing. The promotional blurb, the configurator and the dealer all had slightly different things to say about the suspension. AFAIK, the coupé is a bit lower than the Cab & Targa but it appears you can spec yet another level of lowered-ness with PDCC & SPASM but there is uncertainty about whether it’s an extra 10mm, 20mm or none at all. I defer to Porsche detail obsessives to get this one right.

Anyway, it’s firm but compliant. I specced PDCC because I’m used to roll suppression on my daily driver and have grown to really like it.

Having gone into London & back today from the Shires, I’m surprised at how much of the time in traffic it runs with no boost at all and there is a reasonable amount of power there. Have flirted with the throttle and it’s a real feel of latent energy just waiting to be released. A few more miles on the engine and I shall see what it’s really got...
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Congrats! I just picked up a 15 900mi 991.1 myself. Love the center exhaust outlets and the color. Im in Long Island maybe we will catch up sometime.
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Originally Posted by Ed911.2
You know what? I got very confused by the whole thing. The promotional blurb, the configurator and the dealer all had slightly different things to say about the suspension. AFAIK, the coupé is a bit lower than the Cab & Targa but it appears you can spec yet another level of lowered-ness with PDCC & SPASM but there is uncertainty about whether it’s an extra 10mm, 20mm or none at all. I defer to Porsche detail obsessives to get this one right.

Anyway, it’s firm but compliant. I specced PDCC because I’m used to roll suppression on my daily driver and have grown to really like it.

Having gone into London & back today from the Shires, I’m surprised at how much of the time in traffic it runs with no boost at all and there is a reasonable amount of power there. Have flirted with the throttle and it’s a real feel of latent energy just waiting to be released. A few more miles on the engine and I shall see what it’s really got...
A 2wd coupe comes with -20mm SPASM without ticking any boxes. If you do PDCC, you have to check the box that has PDCC with SPASM. to get the -20mm. I THINK it's the same for the 4 models, and the convertibles and targas are higher from the factory, so its a different ball game.
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Originally Posted by 0Q991
Unnerving as in extremely stable but slightly more disconnected?
Exactly. IMHO, leave it and do SPASM with RWS.
Old 04-26-2017, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed911.2
Got mine yesterday.

Going to need a bit of running in of engine and tyres but feels great and rides very smoothly, given the size of the wheels and the lowered suspension. Went over a speed bump by mistake that I didn’t see but no nasty noises. Took a few pics before the rain came:




Hi Ed,

Can I ask, did you used to own a silver M3 with Laguna blue interior?
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Originally Posted by sechsgang
Exactly. IMHO, leave it and do SPASM with RWS.
Great--thanks. I was leaning that way and this helps affirm it.
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Hi Ed,

Can I ask, did you used to own a silver M3 with Laguna blue interior?
No, but I would have liked to!

A 2wd coupe comes with -20mm SPASM without ticking any boxes. If you do PDCC, you have to check the box that has PDCC with SPASM. to get the -20mm. I THINK it's the same for the 4 models, and the convertibles and targas are higher from the factory, so its a different ball game.
I didn’t spec the -20mm but the techie at the dealer said it would be lower compared to the 4S. Honestly, on the sort of roads we’ve got round here, any lower than what I have would be slower.

I went with PDCC because it’s meant to improve handling and ride at the same time, although in reality I like my toys and am a serial box-ticker when it comes to options: PASM, PDCC, PDK, PAS, PSE, PDLS+ oooh, sounds good even though I’m not sure what all of them do...
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Ed911.2,

Beautiful car, love the color combo, enjoy it.

One thing is going to be driving you crazy, though. The tires on these cars are THE most efficient at picking up rocks. You sir just hit the mother load. Put some PPF on those hips and rockers soon.
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Put some PPF on those hips and rockers soon.
Interestingly, it comes with PPF on the front of the rear arches from the factory, which surprised both myself and the dealer. Am booking it in for a serious PPF and Gtechniq session...
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Originally Posted by Ed911.2
Interestingly, it comes with PPF on the front of the rear arches from the factory, which surprised both myself and the dealer. Am booking it in for a serious PPF and Gtechniq session...
Yep, they come with the triangular shaped film behind the doors. Your PPF guy should remove them and hopefully extend the coverage both wider and higher up. Mine came up to the door handle.

Perfect, I applied PPF with a Gtechniq overlay on mine as well. Provides very good protection in so many ways.
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The whole -10mm and -20mm business is obsolete with the 991.2 because PASM is standard. Therefore, while the base car is -10mm compared with the base 991.1, that should now be the baseline, since you can't get a 991.2 with a higher ride height.

In other words, on a 991.2 SPASM is -10, not -20mm.
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Originally Posted by Valvefloat991
The whole -10mm and -20mm business is obsolete with the 991.2 because PASM is standard. Therefore, while the base car is -10mm compared with the base 991.1, that should now be the baseline, since you can't get a 991.2 with a higher ride height.

In other words, on a 991.2 SPASM is -10, not -20mm.

I think because it's still "un-selectable" for lack of a better term, they still like to keep the "standard" ride height at the 0, PASM as the -10 mm compared to standard (even if it's included in the build if left alone) and SPASM as the -20mm from standard or highest ride height to avoid confusion. However you're right in that case for sure.
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Originally Posted by sechsgang
A 2wd coupe comes with -20mm SPASM without ticking any boxes. If you do PDCC, you have to check the box that has PDCC with SPASM. to get the -20mm. I THINK it's the same for the 4 models, and the convertibles and targas are higher from the factory, so its a different ball game.
This is not true. The car comes with PASM standard. If you want SPASM you have to select it. If you want PDCC as well you have to select it as well. None of the Carrera's come standard with SPASM.

edit: I thought you were referring to the Carrera Coupe versus the GTS. My mistake. Got confused and thought I was in the C4S Powerkit thread...

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Old 04-27-2017, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sechsgang
Exactly. IMHO, leave it and do SPASM with RWS.
All personal preference. I have driven both and prefer the SPASM w/PDCC car over the SPASM only car. Aside from the flat cornering, the car rides softer in a straight line than a SPASM only car. All personal preference though.


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