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Old 04-02-2017 | 07:55 PM
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Great article.
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Interesting article
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good article.

May be in the minority here, but with the .2 GTS you get 95% of the power of the first generation 997 turbo, but with a lot less lag.

Other than for prestige, or if you truly plan to track it monthly, I don't see the reason to buy a Turbo/Turbo S over a 991.2 GTS. The GTS has more power that you can legally use on 99% of the roads in america, and torque to spare.
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Will be interesting to see how 911.2 gts sales are affected by the new gt3. A well optioned first generation turbo is only $10 grand less than the NA gt3. Anyone who can afford to spend $150 grand for a turbo 3.0 can certainly afford to spend $160 grand for the 4.0. Perhaps this will force Porsche to build a gt3 touring model, a 911R for the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by 911 Day
Will be interesting to see how 911.2 gts sales are affected by the new gt3. A well optioned first generation turbo is only $10 grand less than the NA gt3. Anyone who can afford to spend $150 grand for a turbo 3.0 can certainly afford to spend $160 grand for the 4.0. Perhaps this will force Porsche to build a gt3 touring model, a 911R for the rest of us.
Being able to afford one, and being able to actually buy one at 160K are two very different things when it comes to the 991.2 GT3.
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Issue for getting a .2 GT3 now will not be price but getting an allocation. Anyone can get a GTS allocation, but if you want a .2 GT3 in the next 18 months you need to have put down your deposit 1-2 years ago, with a dealer that already knows you well.

So if you didn't do that deposit 1-2 years ago with the right dealer you're not getting a .2 GT3 until spring of 2019. If you want a .2 GT3 now, you'll have to pay a "market adjustment" of $40,000 over MSRP.

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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Being able to afford one, and being able to actually buy one at 160K are two very different things when it comes to the 991.2 GT3.
The way I heard it, Porsche has said anyone who wants a gt3 will (eventually) be able to get one. I don't know...
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Originally Posted by Drifting
Issue for getting a .2 GT3 now will not be price but getting an allocation. Anyone can get a GTS allocation, but if you want a .2 GT3 in the next 18 months you need to have put down your deposit 1-2 years ago, with a dealer that already knows you well.

So if you didn't do that deposit 1-2 years ago with the right dealer you're not getting a .2 GT3 until spring of 2019. If you want a .2 GT3 now, you'll have to pay a "market adjustment" of $40,000 over MSRP.
There is at least one new 2015 gt3 still sitting unsold on a lot here in the states. I would be surprised if Porsche didn't up production.
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Originally Posted by 911 Day
The way I heard it, Porsche has said anyone who wants a gt3 will (eventually) be able to get one. I don't know...
Yes, of course.

And by that time the 992 will have been officially introduced, and available for delivery.
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Originally Posted by 911 Day
The way I heard it, Porsche has said anyone who wants a gt3 will (eventually) be able to get one. I don't know...
Yes. You notice my post stated you'd have to wait until spring/summer 2019 to get a .2 GT3 at MSRP, not the end of time. So yes you can get one at the end of the production run, but still with a little work on your part to get on a list now.
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i bought a 991.2 GTS over a 991.2/991.1 Turbo S. I actually thought it the GTS would be more fun on a daily basis. and sure, the savings in cost is significant.
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Originally Posted by golden1911
i bought a 991.2 GTS over a 991.2/991.1 Turbo S. I actually thought it the GTS would be more fun on a daily basis. and sure, the savings in cost is significant.


This for me.
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I looked at a GTS before I bought my Turbo S. The GTS is a very nice car.
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Any advice for ordering a 991.2 GTS below MSRP? Anything more than calling around local dealers and finding the best deal? I've had 3 911s (currently a 997 GTS), but never built to my spec. Thoughts appreciated.



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