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Old 05-22-2017, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by R_Rated
Never said it was slow.... I said that if the tune gained nearly 100hp as claimed then you'd expect a lot higher than stock hp trap speeds.
I keep trying to explain to you the torque gain is 100 lb-ft at the wheels at 3000 rpm not 100 horsepower. The peak hp gain is less than the peak torque gain. That is why you see the large elapsed time gain more than the trap speed gain.

Furthermore, the entire basis for your point of the trap speed is based on a magazine trap and not a stock run from anyone on a real drag strip. GPS vs. timing beams. Your premise is flawed to begin with.

We're talking 991.1 Turbo level performance here from a flash tuned 991.2 C4S on 21's. Is that sinking it yet?
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Originally Posted by mac10
Just realized this today... I ran that time(11.1) with my aftermarket 21" Pure Wheels. I am wondering if the stock 20's would net a faster result or higher trap speed? Might be fun to try again and compare.
The 20's would help, yes. Especially if you put some stickier rubber on them. Didn't realize you did the run on 21's but that's a great 60 foot for street tires anyway.

Any pics of your car on 21's btw? I'm debating 20's vs. 21's here myself. Likely just going to run an 18 inch for the strip if that size clears the rear brakes.
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Originally Posted by sticky
The 20's would help, yes. Especially if you put some stickier rubber on them. Didn't realize you did the run on 21's but that's a great 60 foot for street tires anyway.

Any pics of your car on 21's btw? I'm debating 20's vs. 21's here myself. Likely just going to run an 18 inch for the strip if that size clears the rear brakes.
A set of lightweight 18s would be great for the strip. I have a set of 21" Vossens going on my C4 next week. Running 20" Klassens now.
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If anyone in SoCal is interested in going for a ride along in a tuned 991.2 let me know!

Just had my 17 C4 flashed, this thing is a monster. Low end torque pickup feels fantastic, definitely off the line faster. The traction control lights up through first gear even on 20" Pzeros. Power pulls all the way to top end, especially after 5800-6k rpm it hits hard.

I did some Vbox testing of the car stock, need to get back out there this week to compare. Will report back with data.
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Originally Posted by Sprchng
A set of lightweight 18s would be great for the strip. I have a set of 21" Vossens going on my C4 next week. Running 20" Klassens now.
Someone said in another thread 18's won't work but I don't know if that is true. I was thinking of an 18 inch Hoosier radial for the strip.

Looking forward to pics of your 21's.
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Originally Posted by sticky
The 20's would help, yes. Especially if you put some stickier rubber on them. Didn't realize you did the run on 21's but that's a great 60 foot for street tires anyway.

Any pics of your car on 21's btw? I'm debating 20's vs. 21's here myself. Likely just going to run an 18 inch for the strip if that size clears the rear brakes.
Sure. Here's the sizes I'm running: Pirelli P Zeros 255/30/21 on the front and 325/25/21 rear, 21x9.0 ET44 on the front and 21x12.5 ET 52.
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So is the car with 21" on it slower than with 20"? even if the overall circumference is the same?
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Originally Posted by mac10
Sure. Here's the sizes I'm running: Pirelli P Zeros 255/30/21 on the front and 325/25/21 rear, 21x9.0 ET44 on the front and 21x12.5 ET 52.
Thanks. I think you just settled the debate for me.

How is the ride? Lowered on which springs?

Those look like Vossens btw?
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Originally Posted by J.Ho
So is the car with 21" on it slower than with 20"? even if the overall circumference is the same?
circumference is the same but 21's in general are heavier. With drag racing you want a higher profile tire in order to induce side wall flex for better traction. Therefore with a larger wheel you have a lower profile tire with less side wall flex in conjunction with it being heavier.
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Originally Posted by mikex25
circumference is the same but 21's in general are heavier. With drag racing you want a higher profile tire in order to induce side wall flex for better traction. Therefore with a larger wheel you have a lower profile tire with less side wall flex in conjunction with it being heavier.
Gotcha makes total sense.
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Originally Posted by sticky
Thanks. I think you just settled the debate for me.

How is the ride? Lowered on which springs?

Those look like Vossens btw?
The ride is honestly no different than stock. I did have H&R Sport Springs installed which only lowered it slightly more than the factory height. The wheels are from a Canadian company called PUR, they were a bit pricey but each wheel is forged from one piece of aluminum which makes them strong and light.
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Originally Posted by mac10
The ride is honestly no different than stock. I did have H&R Sport Springs installed which only lowered it slightly more than the factory height. The wheels are from a Canadian company called PUR, they were a bit pricey but each wheel is forged from one piece of aluminum which makes them strong and light.
PM me what they cost if you're comfortable with that, thanks.
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Originally Posted by mikex25
circumference is the same but 21's in general are heavier. With drag racing you want a higher profile tire in order to induce side wall flex for better traction. Therefore with a larger wheel you have a lower profile tire with less side wall flex in conjunction with it being heavier.
Even more impactful than the greater weight is the greater rotating moment of inertia.
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Originally Posted by Dewinator
Even more impactful than the greater weight is the greater rotating moment of inertia.
We have enough torque that it isn't an issue
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Originally Posted by sticky
We have enough torque that it isn't an issue
Hahaha touché.


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