Why no neutral/blueish dark gray?
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Why no neutral/blueish dark gray?
I've been puzzling over why Porsche doesn't offer a neutral to blueish tinted dark gray/silver in its standard palate.
The only dark gray in their lineup is Agate, and in sunlight Agate looks halfway between dark silver and a platinum beige color.
I think this must be a color designed for Britain where it's overcast most of the time and so it looks alright. What a shock it must be when the sun finally comes out to learn that your car is actually brown. As a Northern California resident, I find it terribly unfair that just because I have sun and crystal clear blue skies for 95% of the year I don't get to have a decent dark silver option to tick on our order sheets.
IMO, Dark silver is the most versatile, aggressive-sporty color. Audi has a great dark silver called Daytona Gray. It would look fantastic on a 911. Speaking of Audi, even their brownish dark-silver (Oolong Gray) looks better in sun than Agate Brown.
For all the standard configuration choices this basic one feels like a bit of an opportunity lost, especially considering most of the other German car companies offer at least 10 shades of gray on every model. Porsche doesn't have to look far, Volcano Gray offered on the Macan is decent.
I ended up settling on Sapphire Blue because well that one is stunning by itself.
I know this has probably done to death but I just wanted to vent and honestly this seemed no less productive a thread topic than another one about which brand of vacuum cleaner you think the 991.2 sounds most like.
The only dark gray in their lineup is Agate, and in sunlight Agate looks halfway between dark silver and a platinum beige color.
I think this must be a color designed for Britain where it's overcast most of the time and so it looks alright. What a shock it must be when the sun finally comes out to learn that your car is actually brown. As a Northern California resident, I find it terribly unfair that just because I have sun and crystal clear blue skies for 95% of the year I don't get to have a decent dark silver option to tick on our order sheets.
IMO, Dark silver is the most versatile, aggressive-sporty color. Audi has a great dark silver called Daytona Gray. It would look fantastic on a 911. Speaking of Audi, even their brownish dark-silver (Oolong Gray) looks better in sun than Agate Brown.
For all the standard configuration choices this basic one feels like a bit of an opportunity lost, especially considering most of the other German car companies offer at least 10 shades of gray on every model. Porsche doesn't have to look far, Volcano Gray offered on the Macan is decent.
I ended up settling on Sapphire Blue because well that one is stunning by itself.
I know this has probably done to death but I just wanted to vent and honestly this seemed no less productive a thread topic than another one about which brand of vacuum cleaner you think the 991.2 sounds most like.
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Originally Posted by 2001_S15
Thanks for the suggestions! I'll polish my resume. Already have an Audi so that doesn't help.
I'm with you. Porsche has limited colors, and the PTS program is a train wreck. For such a luxury brand with high $$$, they could be doing ALOT better. I feel your pain.
I like darker silvers too. I'm happy with GT Silver. Not really too dark, but by far the best one they make as an attainable option.
I think the paint program is low on the priority list for Porsche. They raised the PTS $$, and they've had a terrible time executing it. They're not set up well manufacturing wise to pull off a well run paint program right now.
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look up std metallic Atlas Grey from 987/997 years ..it was a dark metallic grey but with a blue cast in angled sun ...and potential buyers complained about that so they '86'd it as a std metallic after a couple years
couple of Atlas cars :
and recall how relatively poorly Rhodium Silver was received by the interweb when it replaced Platinum Silver as std silver in 2014 because it traded a warm silver for a bluish silver , so after 2 " gripy " years complaining it wasn't aggressive looking enough , it was replaced as the std charge metallic silver in 2016 by GT Silver ( which orig debuted as the exclusive silver avail only on the 2004 Carrera GT ) and eventually avail before 2016 but with a multi thousand $ upcharge!
couple of Rhodium cars :
to OP , is Atlas sorta what you are looking for ? It'll cost ya $7k if avail via PTS but you will get zero on resale/trade and actually may cause car to be a bit harder to sell privately, IMO, in future years when used buyers know that the well regarded and desired prev $$$$ GT Silver was almost " free " during the 991.2 production !
couple of Atlas cars :
and recall how relatively poorly Rhodium Silver was received by the interweb when it replaced Platinum Silver as std silver in 2014 because it traded a warm silver for a bluish silver , so after 2 " gripy " years complaining it wasn't aggressive looking enough , it was replaced as the std charge metallic silver in 2016 by GT Silver ( which orig debuted as the exclusive silver avail only on the 2004 Carrera GT ) and eventually avail before 2016 but with a multi thousand $ upcharge!
couple of Rhodium cars :
to OP , is Atlas sorta what you are looking for ? It'll cost ya $7k if avail via PTS but you will get zero on resale/trade and actually may cause car to be a bit harder to sell privately, IMO, in future years when used buyers know that the well regarded and desired prev $$$$ GT Silver was almost " free " during the 991.2 production !
Last edited by MKW; 03-04-2017 at 12:56 PM.
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Originally Posted by worf928
That is just plain nucking futs.
Imagine the cost?? Take the car 100% apart. Brand new 991R at that. Brave and wealthy man. Wonder who has the fun job of putting it back together
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I don't have to imagine. I'm doing it to about 75% of that level on a 928 GT now. Not a color change, so I don't need a 'body in white.' But it is a tremendous amount of work. It requires a level of organization not usually found at dealerships. You need a lot of storage space. And there's probably non-trivial parts expense involved; some of the bits will be single-use even though they were new.
Nucking futs I tell ya. But, it ain't like they are making any more 911Rs. Or 928 GTs.
Nucking futs I tell ya. But, it ain't like they are making any more 911Rs. Or 928 GTs.
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Originally Posted by worf928
I don't have to imagine. I'm doing it to about 75% of that level on a 928 GT now. Not a color change, so I don't need a 'body in white.' But it is a tremendous amount of work. It requires a level of organization not usually found at dealerships. You need a lot of storage space. And there's probably non-trivial parts expense involved; some of the bits will be single-use even though they were new.
Nucking futs I tell ya. But, it ain't like they are making any more 911Rs. Or 928 GTs.
Nucking futs I tell ya. But, it ain't like they are making any more 911Rs. Or 928 GTs.
928?
Oh, you must know Tony here then?