Needsdecaf

I think this is the pertinent question.

Without a doubt, the 911 is a much, much better car. I went round and round and round trying to decide what to do...buy a new C63S, M3 Comp Pack or a used 911. And believe me, this was a decision made over a year, driving multiple examples of each. And it was a hard decision.

I'm not the typical driver. I work on a construction site every day, and while I'm not a construction worker, I drive the project in my own car, go in and out of buildings under construction, etc. I don't just show up and park the car in an office parking lot and see it 10 hours later (thankfully!). So the choice was....how impractical do I want to get and how badly do I feel beating the snot out of an $80k (my budget) car every day.

In the end, I ended up with the 911....and a GTI for my daily drive. Best of both worlds, but I understand not feasible for everyone. And not necessary. If my job entailed driving to an office, client meetings and lunch, I could easily rock the 911 as a daily driver. Very easily (except the cupholder thing, they suck). This was after literally going from the Merc dealer to the Porsche dealer to the BMW dealer all in 3-4 hours.

Keep in mind, this was a fully loaded M3 comp pack. Not even an M2 which, while fun, lacks performance compared to the M3.

I'd say 911 all day long, and I'd say it on a BMW forum too (I am still a BMWCCA member as well as a PCA member).

MrFarenheit

Put it this way: There is a substitute for the perfect driving machine.

seattle_sun

Never loved my E92 M3. Test drove the F80 and liked it even less.

You are in a 997 now and I understand the desire to try a new brand, but seriously there is no comparison between the 991 and the M2. The M3 competition pack is supposed to be pretty good, but it's still such a heavy car. Maybe a used GT-R or AMG C63?

R_Rated

I didn't know he had a 997... i'd take the 997 > M2 all day, every day.

R_Rated

Also - if you're considering an M2 then you owe it to yourself to explore Caymans as well. I'm not saying that's the answer - but I am saying a test drive is in order.

J.Ho

BMW's are average... The M cars are above average... Porsche 911's are elite.

Ditto others I've had three M cars including two E92s and an F82, and eight 911's (911SC, 964, 993, 996 x 2, 991.1 x 2, 991.2). Different league. I'm done trying M cars.

Gilbert Han

I am thinking used 991.1, year 2013 - 2014. It's market price is currently at $60k range which is almost close to new BMW M2.

If I compare new 911 vs new M2, I'd always go for 911 as well.

I know 991 is much better car than M2, but I need to be prepared for extra cost to maintain whereas new M2 is covered under factory warranty.

Joec500

Maybe find a CPO 991, so you get some warranty.

Also the 991's are super reliable, that motor is very proven, and depending on mileage, the services are not that ridiculous. I just did my 40k service, which was on the pricier side ($800). If you are handy you can easily do it yourself.

Personally I would rather have the worst of the best (used base 911) than the best of the worst (suped up low end BMW)

I would drive both back to back and one will sing to you.

I was choosing between a new M4 and a used 991.1 Carrera S. Drove both back to back and just couldn't imagine myself in the M4 after driving the 911.

GregD

I crossed shopped those as well, because I am a porsche fan, but also a BMW 2002 guy. And the M2 is kind of the new Tii ;-) In the end I was put off by BMW dealer markups on the M2, refusal to test drive one etc (mind the Porsche dealer was just as bad but I bought used in the end)... I managed to drive one eventually elsewhere (by which time I think I already had the 991), it has more torque but it feels like a 335 kinda engine. Powerful, yesh, but not "special". I was not a fan of the driving position (high and slightly off center). The car is fast. I just felt that for the money, the 991 was a purer sports car and a hell of a looker in comparison. The Bimmer felt like a fun toy, say a boosted RWD GTI, the 911 felt like a proper sports car. I like both, but side by side no contest for me...

PS: that's no slight to the GTI, I still tell everyone that asks that a GTI is all the car anyone ever truly needs..

Needsdecaf

I bought my CPO 2013 C2S for less than a new M3 Comp Pack. I don't have 4 years of warranty, but I have more mileage.

Needsdecaf

I agree. I'm loving mine and it's still sitting in the garage waiting for my Lexus to go off lease. Only about 110 miles on it since I got it 3 weeks ago. That'll change soon, though.

py0413

Our local dealers have a couple USED M2 selling for $78k-80k (Canadian dollar) compare to brand new at $65k-70k. They'll tell you the wait list to get one at MSRP is very very long and the car will most likely to APPRECIATE in $$$. I think it's a nice little fun car but the way these dealers are trying to market/sell them turns me off completely.

If you are ok with the maintenance costs and everything else with your recent 997, you should do just fine with a pre-owned 991.1

MJG911

I traded in an M235i for my 991. great little car, drove nice, fast, but I never turned my head to look back at it after parking and walking away from it. Just visually boring.

RODOLFO04

Comparing a 991 to an M2, what has this world come to

the only reason to go with the m2, would be to go more under the radar.

erko1905

Just to add to that, it doesn't just feel like a 335 kinda engine, it really is just a tuned N55, not the M3/4 S55, so you're really looking at a tuned 235i w some forged engine bits and some suspension, bottomline.

I had a tuned F30 335i before my 991.1 C4S and I think apart from straight line speed, every other variable feels like a major upgrade.