New 991.2 Base Pdk....Wow !
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I had a 2010 GT3 for 3 1/2 years. I autocrossed it quite a bit all over the country for a year or 2. Amazing car.....not so amazing for a long drive after I wrecked my pick up truck (no more tow vehicle). Like an idiot I sold my GT3 too low. And included the crazy *** torque wrench and breaker bar I had with the car....regrets...
Anyway, fast forward to present day, picked up a 2017 911. Pdk, power steering plus, 14 seats. Yellow.
Wow ! Obviously rides harder and firmer than my 550i, duh. Amazing head lights. Crazy smooth amazing Pdk. Nice to have back up camera, parking sensors etc. I keep telling myself I am not going to screw with the alignment.....not going to deal with the hassle. Maybe just another set of wheels and tires...RE-71R.
My car came with Yokohama Advan 105...I think that's it. Rides pretty decent.....not sure on overall grip. Any opinion's on the Advan.
Anyway I only have 70 miles on the car.
I don't I need a faster car, this "base" feels more than quick enough to me !
My 991.2 base to me feels like a grown up GT3 to me.
Anyway, fast forward to present day, picked up a 2017 911. Pdk, power steering plus, 14 seats. Yellow.
Wow ! Obviously rides harder and firmer than my 550i, duh. Amazing head lights. Crazy smooth amazing Pdk. Nice to have back up camera, parking sensors etc. I keep telling myself I am not going to screw with the alignment.....not going to deal with the hassle. Maybe just another set of wheels and tires...RE-71R.
My car came with Yokohama Advan 105...I think that's it. Rides pretty decent.....not sure on overall grip. Any opinion's on the Advan.
Anyway I only have 70 miles on the car.
I don't I need a faster car, this "base" feels more than quick enough to me !
My 991.2 base to me feels like a grown up GT3 to me.
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My thoughts exactly. After test riding C2, C2S, C4S it was hard to decide but after driving mine 1000 miles I have zero regrets on picking the C2. If I was to track it in Spa or Le Mans it would probably be different but on the road this is already so much car. Enjoy, and yes let's see some pics.
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I had a 2010 GT3 for 3 1/2 years. I autocrossed it quite a bit all over the country for a year or 2. Amazing car.....not so amazing for a long drive after I wrecked my pick up truck (no more tow vehicle). Like an idiot I sold my GT3 too low. And included the crazy *** torque wrench and breaker bar I had with the car....regrets...
Anyway, fast forward to present day, picked up a 2017 911. Pdk, power steering plus, 14 seats. Yellow.
Wow ! Obviously rides harder and firmer than my 550i, duh. Amazing head lights. Crazy smooth amazing Pdk. Nice to have back up camera, parking sensors etc. I keep telling myself I am not going to screw with the alignment.....not going to deal with the hassle. Maybe just another set of wheels and tires...RE-71R.
My car came with Yokohama Advan 105...I think that's it. Rides pretty decent.....not sure on overall grip. Any opinion's on the Advan.
Anyway I only have 70 miles on the car.
I don't I need a faster car, this "base" feels more than quick enough to me !
My 991.2 base to me feels like a grown up GT3 to me.
Anyway, fast forward to present day, picked up a 2017 911. Pdk, power steering plus, 14 seats. Yellow.
Wow ! Obviously rides harder and firmer than my 550i, duh. Amazing head lights. Crazy smooth amazing Pdk. Nice to have back up camera, parking sensors etc. I keep telling myself I am not going to screw with the alignment.....not going to deal with the hassle. Maybe just another set of wheels and tires...RE-71R.
My car came with Yokohama Advan 105...I think that's it. Rides pretty decent.....not sure on overall grip. Any opinion's on the Advan.
Anyway I only have 70 miles on the car.
I don't I need a faster car, this "base" feels more than quick enough to me !
My 991.2 base to me feels like a grown up GT3 to me.
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The base is more than enough for backroad driving, but if you track it, GTS for sure!
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Out of all the 991.2 cars I've driven (C2, C4, C4S, Turbo S), the C2 was the most approachable and fun. It was lively, honest, confidence inspiring.
Now if only Porsche would put a 3.0 version of the new GT engine in it...
Now if only Porsche would put a 3.0 version of the new GT engine in it...
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I'm loving my C2 and have AX'd it several times. I'm taking it to an actually track in a couple of weeks so that might be enough to firmly convince me to go with the GTS.
The base models are just such great cars to start with.....
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Kinda giggling when hearing you need the S or GTS for the track, especially in monster torque 991.2 form ;-)
I remember going for 15y with an R-compound shod 911SC that would hang with the big guys in the turns but be left in the dust like it was tied to a pole on straights by GT3s etc... So I get that part, you need something a little faster in the fast group so you don't spend 30 minutes driving your mirrors... But even a base 991.1 or 991.2 is a lot of car for most folks to track, especially if they can drive it, unless there's an actual race or $$$ prize money involved in which case you need a race car anyway...
My contention is ANY 991 (especially a base .2) will more than suffice for the track, at worst you'll have to give one or 2 point-bys (Oh the humanity), at best you'll get better at maximizing the base car... The whole point is to get close the car's abilities.. If you are truly that good you can max out a base 991, you should buy an RSR ;-)
PS: All tongue in cheek, you buy what you want and use whatever excuses you need to get a faster car, I'm good with that, I need to buy your used GTSes in 2/3 years ;-)
I remember going for 15y with an R-compound shod 911SC that would hang with the big guys in the turns but be left in the dust like it was tied to a pole on straights by GT3s etc... So I get that part, you need something a little faster in the fast group so you don't spend 30 minutes driving your mirrors... But even a base 991.1 or 991.2 is a lot of car for most folks to track, especially if they can drive it, unless there's an actual race or $$$ prize money involved in which case you need a race car anyway...
My contention is ANY 991 (especially a base .2) will more than suffice for the track, at worst you'll have to give one or 2 point-bys (Oh the humanity), at best you'll get better at maximizing the base car... The whole point is to get close the car's abilities.. If you are truly that good you can max out a base 991, you should buy an RSR ;-)
PS: All tongue in cheek, you buy what you want and use whatever excuses you need to get a faster car, I'm good with that, I need to buy your used GTSes in 2/3 years ;-)
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The other considerations definitely matter to the overall ownership experience - what else are you doing with it, do you want manual, do you want a 9K redline, etc.
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Kinda giggling when hearing you need the S or GTS for the track, especially in monster torque 991.2 form ;-)
I remember going for 15y with an R-compound shod 911SC that would hand with the big guys in the turns but be left in the dust like it was tied to a pole on straights by GT3s etc... So I get that part, you need something a little faster in the fast group so you don't spend 30 minutes driving your mirrors... But even a base 991.1 or 991.2 is a lot of car for most folks to track, especially if they can drive it, unless there's an actual race or $$$ prize money involved in which case you need a race car anyway...
My contention is ANY 991 (especially a base .2) will more than suffice for the track, at worst you'll have to give one or 2 point-bys (Oh the humanity), at best you'll get better at maximizing the base car... The whole point is to get close the car's abilities.. If you are truly that good you can max out a base 991, you should buy an RSR ;-)
PS: All tongue in cheek, you buy what you want and use whatever excuses you need to get a faster car, I'm good with that, I need to buy your used GTSes in 2/3 years ;-)
I remember going for 15y with an R-compound shod 911SC that would hand with the big guys in the turns but be left in the dust like it was tied to a pole on straights by GT3s etc... So I get that part, you need something a little faster in the fast group so you don't spend 30 minutes driving your mirrors... But even a base 991.1 or 991.2 is a lot of car for most folks to track, especially if they can drive it, unless there's an actual race or $$$ prize money involved in which case you need a race car anyway...
My contention is ANY 991 (especially a base .2) will more than suffice for the track, at worst you'll have to give one or 2 point-bys (Oh the humanity), at best you'll get better at maximizing the base car... The whole point is to get close the car's abilities.. If you are truly that good you can max out a base 991, you should buy an RSR ;-)
PS: All tongue in cheek, you buy what you want and use whatever excuses you need to get a faster car, I'm good with that, I need to buy your used GTSes in 2/3 years ;-)
Nowhere in this post (or any of my posts actually) have I ever said I NEEDED more than a Base C2 or was skilled enough to outdrive one.
If I needed a GTS /GT3 the choice would be simple, I'd get one for my next car. But Porsche is all about WANT for me. If I get another base will I always be longing for an S? Yeah probably because I would really like the upgraded suspension parts and brakes on the S. If I get an S will I always be longing for a GTS? Maybe. Not sure right now. I currently love the performance of my .1 base. But there are a few non-performance aspects of it that have convinced me NOT to buy it at the end of the lease. Since I will be ordering a new one anyway I should at least move up to an S right? RIGHT!?
I completely agree with you on the performance of the base C2. I question that if I jump up to a GTS if I will find myself saying to myself, "Dude you should have just got another base the way you wanted it, used it as a "beater" to DD, AX, track and C&C and saved $40K."
Ahhhhh truly First World problems. We are so fortunate.
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Fun is fun. I don't have to be able to extract every last ounce of enjoyment out of a Coke before I purchase a bottle of Moët.
I started racing in Miatas in the mid-nineties. Got pretty good. But the best could still outpace me by a couple seconds on a mid-length track. Doesn't me I wasn't ready to move to faster sportscars.
Look at it this way: the worse you are, the more you need a really fast car to keep up with everyone else!
I started racing in Miatas in the mid-nineties. Got pretty good. But the best could still outpace me by a couple seconds on a mid-length track. Doesn't me I wasn't ready to move to faster sportscars.
Look at it this way: the worse you are, the more you need a really fast car to keep up with everyone else!
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Im just concerned I might have regret I didn't get a bigger ball buster... when reality is I'll never approach its limits and is 15-40k worth a few tenths on the street