Burmester vs Bose - sound quality question
01-25-2017, 04:19 PM
#16
Yeah, Bose is crap. The marketing is great and many people believe otherwise.
I wouldn't waste money on Burmester to feed it compressed files.
Just like I wouldn't be spending money on the tweeter upgrades that many people are doing - spend money on the source first or you are wasting your time.
As long as you have PSE then you have all the audio you need.
I wouldn't waste money on Burmester to feed it compressed files.
Just like I wouldn't be spending money on the tweeter upgrades that many people are doing - spend money on the source first or you are wasting your time.
As long as you have PSE then you have all the audio you need.
01-25-2017, 04:21 PM
#17
Rennlist Member
I'm sure your dealer would at least let you sit in two cars, one with each audio system and compare. I'd go there and ask them to allow me to do a back-to-back comparison with my own ears, even if it was just sitting still. They are making a boatload of money from you, they should be happy to oblige.
01-25-2017, 04:30 PM
#18
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
I'm sure your dealer would at least let you sit in two cars, one with each audio system and compare. I'd go there and ask them to allow me to do a back-to-back comparison with my own ears, even if it was just sitting still. They are making a boatload of money from you, they should be happy to oblige.
Yeah, Bose is crap. The marketing is great and many people believe otherwise.
I wouldn't waste money on Burmester to feed it compressed files.
Just like I wouldn't be spending money on the tweeter upgrades that many people are doing - spend money on the source first or you are wasting your time.
As long as you have PSE then you have all the audio you need.
I wouldn't waste money on Burmester to feed it compressed files.
Just like I wouldn't be spending money on the tweeter upgrades that many people are doing - spend money on the source first or you are wasting your time.
As long as you have PSE then you have all the audio you need.
01-25-2017, 04:32 PM
#19
Three Wheelin'
While I'm waiting for my first Porsche to arrive so i can't comment directly, I thought I've read in several posts here that the interior noise of these cars is such that no matter how much money you put into a sound system, it gets drowned out by tire and other road noises.
01-25-2017, 05:29 PM
#21
Race Car
While I'm waiting for my first Porsche to arrive so i can't comment directly, I thought I've read in several posts here that the interior noise of these cars is such that no matter how much money you put into a sound system, it gets drowned out by tire and other road noises.
I have had two 991S's, one with Bose and my current one with Burmester. While I am not an audiophile by any stretch, I would go with Bose if I was ordering a car...for a CPO one where someone has already taken the depreciation hit, the Burmester would be nice. The Burmester sounds better than the Bose but I couldn't see spending that much on an audio system in such a noisy car.
01-25-2017, 06:11 PM
#22
Instructor
Another one of these questions -- searched the archives and didn't see the answer I was looking for...
I'm a big believer in source being the most important component of the audio chain. With CDs, I know Burmester is clearly better. My question is, on suboptimal sources like Pandora, Satellite, Spotify/Apple music -- is there still a meaningful difference? Does Burmester still stand head and shoulders above Bose?
Sometimes very high resolution systems sound worse than cheaper systems if using lower quality material.
Thoughts and experience appreciated
I'm a big believer in source being the most important component of the audio chain. With CDs, I know Burmester is clearly better. My question is, on suboptimal sources like Pandora, Satellite, Spotify/Apple music -- is there still a meaningful difference? Does Burmester still stand head and shoulders above Bose?
Sometimes very high resolution systems sound worse than cheaper systems if using lower quality material.
Thoughts and experience appreciated
01-25-2017, 06:19 PM
#23
Instructor
I have the Burmester in my Macan Turbo and it is the best auto sound system I have heard from a manufacturer. I use an iPad with ALAC encoding and an Audioquest Dragonfly Red DAC with an Audioquest Jitterbug USB filter in between. I also stream TIDAL through it. It sounds great. The Macan is a very quiet ride. I have Bose in my 991 but it's a cab so I don't care. Also, if you are using Bluetooth to get from the source to the system, I wouldn't spend a lot of money on the it.
01-25-2017, 06:23 PM
#24
Rennlist Member
If ordering new I'd go with the no-cost base and have Nick..or someone of his caliber install a custom system. https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9665...r-upgrade.html Had Bose in the 50th and it was annoying. Added the Burmester tweeters and was much more tolerable. Nicks tweeters were not available at that time and would also consider that route. Added the Burmester sub-woofer and that was a total waste of $$ IMHO. The Bose tweeters are by far the weak link that can be easily remedied. More here:https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8519...your-bose.html T
01-25-2017, 06:50 PM
#25
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
TerryC4S - nice setup!
The Turbo comes standard with Bose, so Burmester is an additional $3700. Not terrible, but money that I'd be happy to save. I'm back to undecided. I would largely be Bluetooth and streaming (and using crappy Satellite), so I wouldn't have benefit of lossless and hard wire connection.
The Turbo comes standard with Bose, so Burmester is an additional $3700. Not terrible, but money that I'd be happy to save. I'm back to undecided. I would largely be Bluetooth and streaming (and using crappy Satellite), so I wouldn't have benefit of lossless and hard wire connection.
01-25-2017, 07:33 PM
#26
Rennlist Member
It's a very noisy car.
I have had two 991S's, one with Bose and my current one with Burmester. While I am not an audiophile by any stretch, I would go with Bose if I was ordering a car...for a CPO one where someone has already taken the depreciation hit, the Burmester would be nice. The Burmester sounds better than the Bose but I couldn't see spending that much on an audio system in such a noisy car.
I have had two 991S's, one with Bose and my current one with Burmester. While I am not an audiophile by any stretch, I would go with Bose if I was ordering a car...for a CPO one where someone has already taken the depreciation hit, the Burmester would be nice. The Burmester sounds better than the Bose but I couldn't see spending that much on an audio system in such a noisy car.
01-25-2017, 08:04 PM
#29
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Money is an object. Interesting point on performance>Burmester. I guess the question is really, Burmester or PDCC. Or neither. Sports chrono/RWS is standard and no PSE on the Turbos - PDCC is the only performance option that I would potentially be interested in. Of course that's a completely different question.
01-25-2017, 08:08 PM
#30
The most important issue for me is the engineering quality of the recording itself. Well engineered recordings will sound great with Bose or Burmester. Poorly engineered recordings might actually sound worse on the Burmester than the Bose.