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Old 01-12-2017, 05:54 PM
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basic rule of thumb on porsche 2wd vs 4wd on 911's ----->

4wd = 2wd plus 175-200 pounds front end weight, heavier/muted steering feel...

4wd cars thus accelerate slower, provide more grip in slippery conditions, have less 'tossable' handling
Old 01-12-2017, 06:01 PM
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^ It's only about a 100lb difference on the 991. The way I look at it is compared to my build, a 2GTS with PDK, PDCC and 18 way seats weighs about the same as my 4GTS with manual, 4 ways, and no PDCC.
Old 01-12-2017, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutintib
basic rule of thumb on porsche 2wd vs 4wd on 911's ----->

4wd = 2wd plus 175-200 pounds front end weight, heavier/muted steering feel...

4wd cars thus accelerate slower, provide more grip in slippery conditions, have less 'tossable' handling
The 991.2 is reportedly the first 991 for which the 4/4S accelerates faster to 60 than the comparable 2/2S. It's even quoted as such on the Porsche website. Arguably, no one would be able to detect the .1sec that Porsche quotes. Regardless, to say that the 2 wheel drive versions are faster than the 4WD versions is erroneous.
Old 01-12-2017, 09:23 PM
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Not a fan of any AWD 911 specially GTS. Why add extra weight and complexity if you don't need it?
Old 01-12-2017, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mb1
The 991.2 is reportedly the first 991 for which the 4/4S accelerates faster to 60 than the comparable 2/2S. It's even quoted as such on the Porsche website. Arguably, no one would be able to detect the .1sec that Porsche quotes. Regardless, to say that the 2 wheel drive versions are faster than the 4WD versions is erroneous.
Fascinating.
Old 01-12-2017, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambler_13
The 4 also has better steering feel and a more balanced front end.
I heard this too. Drove C2S and C4S back to back.

Could not detect any difference.
Old 01-12-2017, 11:12 PM
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The website says that the GTS 4 is only 30Kg heavier than the 2.
Old 01-12-2017, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
I heard this too. Drove C2S and C4S back to back.

Could not detect any difference.
I think that most ordinary people can't detect a difference in a lot of the options, set-ups and packages that Porsche offers. I suspect that the track-avid individuals probably can feel the difference, but for the rest of us during typical driving conditions, no way.
Old 01-12-2017, 11:59 PM
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Although not GTS's, I just finished a back to back drive at Porsche of Colorado Springs of a C2 vs a C4, both 2017 models.

The C2 was a bit more playful and nimble in tight corners, the C4 a bit more planted with the extra weight over the front axle.

My salesperson Kirk Macklem had an interesting observation. He said that a person new to driving Porsche's would find the C4 more accessible and reassuring. However since traction is not an issue for you why spend an extra $7000 for extra weight?

Coming from driving a 997 C2 and now a 991 GT3 I preferred the C2. However if I valued the traction of the C4, I would not hesitate to buy it.
Old 01-13-2017, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mb1
I think that most ordinary people can't detect a difference in a lot of the options, set-ups and packages that Porsche offers. I suspect that the track-avid individuals probably can feel the difference, but for the rest of us during typical driving conditions, no way.
True - I think some feel that the front driveshaft adds a little more feedback, particularly with the electronic steering. But I bet most would not feel a notable difference in back to back drives.
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Originally Posted by GSIRM3
The GTS4 is not wider than the GTS2, unless that is something new for the 991.2 GTS. That's always been one of the big advantages of the GTS, 997 and 991.1. You get the wider rear end, but without the all wheel drive.
Sorry. My mistake. The 2 GTS is every bit as good if not better than the 4 GTS, if for sunny day blasts.
Old 01-13-2017, 04:19 AM
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With great weather and a great driver RWD will always be fastest around a track. Average or poor weather or driver, AWD will be faster.
Old 01-13-2017, 07:22 AM
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Done.....order placed for GTS, cancelled C4s order.

Hoping for early April delivery - Code PHSVYXP6

Can't wait.
Old 01-13-2017, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Simonl72
Done.....order placed for GTS, cancelled C4s order.

Hoping for early April delivery - Code PHSVYXP6

Can't wait.
Did you go with a 2 or a 4?
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Went for a 2wd. My current is 4wd and to be honest I bet I could not tell the difference when i get it.

I have selected rear axle steer though as I have heard good reports.


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