2000 mile thoughts
12-14-2016, 09:53 PM
#61
I have some of the notorious seat squeeks and latch rattles in my 991.1 GTS. After reading about the WD-40 fix above, I started looking into alternative options and came across Pedro's Ice Wax as a popular choice since it has "friendlier" contents. 3M silicone spray was another popular one. I may give Pedro's a try and would welcome anyone else's experience with this.
05-04-2019, 05:12 PM
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991.2 Glass sunroof rubber awful sound when it is wet after rain.
My 991.2 C4S is having the same issue on the glass sunroof. When the rubber is wet, the glass panel makes some awful sounds as it rubs against it with every bump. May I know how did Porsche services fix that problem? Need to change all the rubber?
Hey Plimpington: I had similar issues with seat belts and exact issue with my glass sunroof.
I am happy to report that after two visits (one for a few hours that proved unsuccessful, the next for 2 days) to Porsche service they are 100% resolved.
Porsche service could not have been more attentive to even he slightest rattle or creek. Bring it in and have these issues addressed, and your love for that car will increase exponentially.
I am happy to report that after two visits (one for a few hours that proved unsuccessful, the next for 2 days) to Porsche service they are 100% resolved.
Porsche service could not have been more attentive to even he slightest rattle or creek. Bring it in and have these issues addressed, and your love for that car will increase exponentially.
05-04-2019, 07:08 PM
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You'd think she could afford to keep a few mothballs in her closet...
05-04-2019, 07:37 PM
#66
Let's start with interior fit and finish. It's fine. It's high quality, but certainly NO higher quality than the one in the GTI. In fact, I'd venture to say the leather in the GTI is nicer. Seems nicer to me, anyway. Dammit also, if the GTI has fewer creeks and rattles!! It just does (same goes for all of the Mercedes I've had). This is a particular bugaboo of mine (my one area of OCD). How is a $115k car plagued with rattles? Rattles in passenger side door handle. Rattles in the passenger rear seat belt. Rattles in the rear window. A persistent "creek" sound (like cellophane crinkling) in rear passenger well (this one worse when cold). And Oh MY GOD, the sound of the sunroof is RIDICULOUS when it's wet (i.e., after a rain). RIDICULOUS!!! When the rubber is wet, the glass panel makes the most awful sound as it rubs against it with every bump. I'm sure it has something to do with the chemistry of the particular rubber compound they use. Fine!! But you know who's sunroof does NOT make any noise - the $30k GTI!! WTF, Porsche!!! This isn't just me. We have a rattles thread on this forum almost monthly. It's ridiculous.
The BOSE is ****e! It just doesn't sound that great. I refuse to believe this is an inherent compromise due to interior acoustics of the car (or the space available for the speakers or behind the speakers in the doors, dash, etc.) I think BOSE, as a brand, is overhyped and largely garbage. Their home products are over-priced and undergood. And I suspect the same goes for the car stuff. I have NEVER heard a good BOSE system in a car. You know which car's stereo sounds GREAT?? The GTI's. The Fender system in the VW is markedly better. So is the Harmon Karden system in the Mercedes. And please don't tell me the Bose system is "flatter", or the Fender system is "built to satisfy the unsophisticated tastes of the mass market, blah blah". I've owned Naim and Linn and Rega and Ortofon for years at home.
Judd
The BOSE is ****e! It just doesn't sound that great. I refuse to believe this is an inherent compromise due to interior acoustics of the car (or the space available for the speakers or behind the speakers in the doors, dash, etc.) I think BOSE, as a brand, is overhyped and largely garbage. Their home products are over-priced and undergood. And I suspect the same goes for the car stuff. I have NEVER heard a good BOSE system in a car. You know which car's stereo sounds GREAT?? The GTI's. The Fender system in the VW is markedly better. So is the Harmon Karden system in the Mercedes. And please don't tell me the Bose system is "flatter", or the Fender system is "built to satisfy the unsophisticated tastes of the mass market, blah blah". I've owned Naim and Linn and Rega and Ortofon for years at home.
Judd
Point #2 is also true. The BOSE speakers have a harsh high end. I think it sounds good initially to the average joe because of the crispness but it causes so much ear fatigue during extended listening. I haven't heard a single BOSE car system that sounds good.
05-09-2019, 09:34 AM
#67
Valid complaints. I think you should take your car in to have the interior rattles and squeaks looked at. It shouldn't have those interior fit and finish issues. I have a 991.2 c4s and the seat belt is a little shaky but other than that, zero rattles. No problems with the glass sunroof. I find the interior in my car to be very nice. I got the 18 ways with full leather and extended leather on the dash and seat backs in leather. Coming from a BMW, the leather in the Porsche is way way nicer. My brakes (PCCB) are the quietest brakes I have ever used. I'm not sure if carbon ceramics are supposed to be quieter than the steel brakes. I have MPS4S tires and they are loud. There is a lot of pinging in the wheel wells from debris. I think all the noise in the wheel wells is intentional or a "feature" because for a serious driving car you want to be able to hear what is going on with the wheels (?). I have the Burmester and its a really nice sound system. Ive heard the bose system before and it seemed fine to me. It is a loud car in the interior. I wouldn't call the ride luxurious either. I live in Minnesota and daily drive where the roads aren't very good. That being said it's the best car I have ever driven. I drive it any opportunity I get. Its such a solid car. I love the feedback through the steering wheel. My understanding is that compared to a lot of other sports cars in the 100k+ range the 911 is supposedly one of the more luxurious. My Dad visited me the other week and he drove the car and loved it but found it to be to harsh for daily driving. I would agree that for how loud some of the exterior noise is, I wish the sports exhaust were louder in the cabin. Its kind of silly of spending the cash for PSE and now I want to get an aftermarket exhaust. All that being said, it's the best driving car I've experienced. It isn't a luxury car though.
05-09-2019, 11:53 AM
#68
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Sorry for your poor experience, consider trading it in and getting a vehicle that suits your needs - life is too short to do things you don't enjoy
05-09-2019, 10:22 PM
#69
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M5?
05-09-2019, 11:34 PM
#70
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It's only three years out of my life. And, as I've said, I suspect you can't achieve the kind of performance you get in a 911 with anything else (maybe a 718). I know me - and I'll probably end up with another Porsche at the end. But I will still complain about the compromises.
05-10-2019, 09:04 AM
#72
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Nice review - thanks for sharing this.
I've had two 991S's - Bose in the first one and Burmester in the current one. The Bose was adequate but the Burmester is fantastic, in my opinion.
Rattles are a funny thing - I've read a lot of complaints about rattles in the 991. My first 991S had rattles but my second one has zero (with 15k miles on it now). Odd. Neither of the sunroofs in my 991S's rattled, though.
Very happy with my fit and finish.
I've had two 991S's - Bose in the first one and Burmester in the current one. The Bose was adequate but the Burmester is fantastic, in my opinion.
Rattles are a funny thing - I've read a lot of complaints about rattles in the 991. My first 991S had rattles but my second one has zero (with 15k miles on it now). Odd. Neither of the sunroofs in my 991S's rattled, though.
Very happy with my fit and finish.
No squeaky brakes on this one or the previous one (both had PCCBs). My first 911.1 (with steels) squeeked but only after an HPDC. Hitting the brakes hard seemed to clear the squeaks on that one.
05-10-2019, 09:13 AM
#73
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I was a little confused and concerned with a couple owners experiencing “creeks” in their cars. Then I thought, “Oh yeah, there are four springs”.
I’ll show myself out...
I’ll show myself out...
