planet

This has all happened before, and it will all happen again.

StudGarden

Yeah with that use of the word appreciated I meant respected and valued, not necessarily going up in value. But hopefully going down in value a lot slower.

The V8 M3's were good cars with great engines, but I don't think M3's are anywhere close to 911's in general in terms of being viewed as desirable collectibles.

I used to be a BMW guys worked on them and drove one example for 325k miles with my dad. They were special in the late 70s early 80s but quickly became German Hondas (and I say that with all due respect being a proud Honda owner and fan).

The Shelby gt350 will go down in the books IMO as having one of the best production NA engines at anywhere remotely close to its price point. But that might not be enough to send them on a rocket ship to the front page of the Robb Report in 2040. At the end of the day, it's still just a mustang, albeit a really, really good one.

A 911 is in a different class altogether. Not just price point or production numbers, but an iconic lineage and recognizability that few cars ever made can exude. Some are better than others and not all will be "collectable" but I do think history will look kindly on 3.8 991's and their amazing NA motors. Not just because it's NA, but because of the total package being pretty special.

JMHO

Key Left

The 3.4L variant weighs only twenty pounds more than the much sought after 911R driving experience, and the weight to horsepower- level combination works the best with the .1 seven speed box ( of course the 911 has 150 more horses and a special set of six -speed ratios), this all makes for a very satisfying driver-engaged motoring experience that the other consumer- available variants cannot match. The new GT3 is also now being offered with manual shift, not for absolute speed numbers reasons but for a more satisfying driver-engaged experience. In the end driving- experience will reign supreme in the model appreciation wars game. Thus, the reasoning behind the extremely -limited production 3.4L /manual shift model pick for the appreciation nod.

Archimedes

Because nobody wanted it. That's unlikely to change just because time passes. There are very few Pontiac Aztecs in circulation either. Doesn't make em collectible.

GT325

One interesting fact the 991.1 GTS\C2S in 2015 had the highest power density NA engine of any car that year that could be configured with a manual transmission.

While it is unlikely to become collectible it certainly does make it a pretty awesome drivers car that is likely to remain an interesting 911 variant. Perhaps will depreciate less than other variants or maybe not. Who knows.

Key Left

And yes, the same could be said about the original Porsche Speedster, nobody wanted that cheap variant either but in the end it offered the best driving experience. Where are they now?

JustBud

i just spit coffee all over my computer monitor.......

Have you checked on the last NA Aztecs....... that seems to be key in collectibility

jimbo1111

I don't believe s modern era mass produced vehicle is going to appreciate anytime soon. Wouldn't we all love to own a stock or bond that you can drive the wheels off of and return it for a profit. It ant happening!

STG

I'm just saying they'll hold their own. Will bottom out soon and hold steady. In 20 years, they'll still be even more desirable.

Now, take that $$ today and invest it in something worthwhile, you'll make out better in the long run. Don't buy cars betting on anything financially other than they will cost you $$, rather than make you any.

I have ZERO expectations that my car will do anything but cost me money. Insurance, maintenance, depreciation, money tied up, etc. It's a money pit. I could think of 10 better uses for that $$$.

I own it for no other reason other than I enjoy the car and driving experience. It's a hobby, passion, and entertainment.

Al.Fresco

Truth!!!

Churchill

malibuboy

+1

Brilliant! You nailed it.

Archimedes

You're cherry picking outliers from the past and projecting them onto current models with no basis whatsoever. There are far more low volume cars that turn into planters than collectibles. The latter is the exceptional exception.

Archimedes

Agreed. Great driving experience. It's just when I hear someone making the 'collectible' argument it reminds of when you're watching a baseball game and the color guy tells you why so and so is awesome because he's the first guy to hit a home run from both sides of the plate in a game played under the lights on a Friday in September of a non-Olympic leap year since Guisseppe Vittone did it in 1923, which of course nobody gives a rat's *** about and it has no bearing on why the guy is good...

Parnelli

Really? Are these cars really that hard to find? Porsche made quite a few of them. Me thinks we are all kidding ourselves about how "rare" they even are. Heck, I've often wondered what my 4K mile '15 C4S is even worth nowadays. But if I knew the real answer I'd probably get depressed

STG is right. Just have fun with 'em !