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Old 09-14-2016, 12:45 PM
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Default Pending purchase *bought GTS*

Facing major buying decision at the moment:
1) Wait for 991.2 GTS
2) Buy 2016 GTS
3) Buy 991.2 base

My hope is to hold the car for a long time (although that's usually my hope buying a new car but never seems to work out). Expensive habit.

New to Porsche after multiple BMW M cars lately, and only considering 7MT (although it's becoming harder and harder as time passes to resist much refined PDK).

-With new GTS expected any time now it's hard not to wait and see what's in store for the modified motor. I don't think Porsche will simply take the S engine and bolt on larger turbos so it will be interesting to see what's in store for new GTS. If, however, they do simply use larger turbos I'd easily narrow my options to 2 & 3.

-Found a 2016 GTS in Carmine Red with 4k miles, 7MT and warranty through 2021 but it has sunroof and doesn't have sport suspension. I really don't want a sunroof and really enjoy firmer setup and better look (10mm makes subtle change for the better appearance-wise). Although I like the color, black or silver suit me better. I'm afraid that after some time I will grow to dislike the red. Also, I have a trade and would lose out on $85k trade-in value tax savings.

-I loved the base car so much when I drove it that my first choice right now is to just spec one exactly as I want (7MT, PCCB, PSE, SC) and pull the trigger with local dealer who's made me a fair offer for my trade.

I'm a loose cannon so could very well cave and just buy 2016 GTS any day now, but also love suspense of waiting for new model and would be disgusted if I bought 2016 and Porsche got new motor in GTS right.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

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Old 09-14-2016, 12:59 PM
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But then what about the 991.2 refresh? Or the 991.3?

It never ends.
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My SA has told me the .2 GTS is at least a year away.
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Originally Posted by rkwfxd
My cleaning lady has told me the .2 GTS is at least a year away.
FIFY.
Old 09-14-2016, 01:09 PM
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991 GTS, easy choice
Old 09-14-2016, 01:12 PM
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Since the 991.1 and .2 GTS are not really related, you seem to just be looking for the letters "GTS". Just buy the one you can get now.
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Originally Posted by dgoldenz
991 GTS, easy choice
Until Porsche releases the 991.3.

Should I get an Apple iPhone 6S Plus, or the new Apple iPhone 7? I could wait till August 2017 and get the Apple iPhone 8.

It's hard chasing technology.
Old 09-14-2016, 01:23 PM
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I had the same thoughts prior to purchasing my GTS. Reading your comments however it seems you're not sure if you'll keep it for a long time or not. My guess is you won't. This would favor trading your car with that base model now and then possibly trading it (if you really want to) for a .2 GTS when it delivers. It might be a while before it hits the showroom and is ready for you to test drive it.

This is the only course of action that makes sense for you. There are no current GTSs that fit your needs and wants so that sort of rules out a .1 GTS.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
Until Porsche releases the 991.3.

Should I get an Apple iPhone 6S Plus, or the new Apple iPhone 7? I could wait till August 2017 and get the Apple iPhone 8.

It's hard chasing technology.
Meant 991.1, it's too early for this. Need more coffee...
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Originally Posted by Dewinator
Since the 991.1 and .2 GTS are not really related, you seem to just be looking for the letters "GTS". Just buy the one you can get now.
Just because new GTS will be turbo-charged doesn't make the two cars unrelated. Perhaps Porsche will figure out a way to lightly boost new engine and improve exhaust note over new PSE?

I don't want all-wheel drive but love wider body lines, so no I'm not just looking for letters. I don't care what the letters are, just want to take 991 power kit motor and drop it in 991.2 GTS and have perfection. Let's see how close P can get.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
Until Porsche releases the 991.3.

Should I get an Apple iPhone 6S Plus, or the new Apple iPhone 7? I could wait till August 2017 and get the Apple iPhone 8.

It's hard chasing technology.
Indeed it is, and quite detrimental to retirement savings!
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Originally Posted by rkwfxd
My SA has told me the .2 GTS is at least a year away.
Over the years I've learned to take lightly any information from sales department because it's very rare that they know more than a crazy consumer addicted to the brand. Perhaps your SA is the exception though...
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There is supposed to be a new generation 911 coming at the end of 2018. If it was me, I'd get a base 991.2 and enjoy it until you see what the 991.2 GTS looks, sounds and drives like. Its not like the money spent on the base will have been wasted - after all you will be driving a great car - and if you option the car lightly and with popular options you are sure to get a good trade value when (if) you decide to trade/sell. As to "detrimental to retirement savings" if that is even a consideration, the whole Porsche thing should be a non starter (in my opinion).
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Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe
Over the years I've learned to take lightly any information from sales department because it's very rare that they know more than a crazy consumer addicted to the brand. Perhaps your SA is the exception though...
Especially given the fact that everybody in the supply line -- Porsche gmbh, PCNA, Your dealership owner, your dealership sales manager, and your SA -- every one of them would rather you buy today than tomorrow, and would rather you buy an actual car that exists today than wait on a future car that may or may not come and that you may or may not like when it gets here.

My SA is a personal friend as well, and I've done business with him at two different Porsche dealers since 2002. When 991 was soon-to-be-released but details were thin on the ground, his story was: "Get a 997.2 -- the 991 will be 4" longer, the wheelbase will be longer, it will just be a cruiser, I'm sad to say." After 991 was released: "Oh man, you NEED to upgrade to a 991; the longer wheelbase makes it much quieter, it is easier on your tires, more stable in high-speed turns, blah blah blah." Before 991.2 came out, he was (admittedly, in agreement with me) lamenting the end of NA 911s and telling me I better get one of the last ones; you should hear him talk about the turbos now.
Old 09-14-2016, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dgoldenz
991 GTS, easy choice
Not really if it's impossible to find one spec'd just the way you want it. The average used Porsche out there is a unique mix of options that doesn't appeal in it's entirety to anyone but the original buyer. Buying used means settling and there's something to be said for getting exactly what you want at these prices.

OP, if I was in your shoes, I'd go with the new base car. I've been pondering a similar decision related to a second car and if I go forward it's going to be a new C4 spec'd exactly the way I want.


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