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Old 09-17-2016, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 12v Nick
I don't have a lot of details to share openly yet, but you definitely won't be disappointed — and you're spot on with what it would take to make the Bose system much more livable.
Sweet !

I'm sure you've already thought of this, but - the install concerns me. I should say; finding the right shop, and them understanding your product, and it's settings/tuning concerns me. Also, replacing speakers creates an opportunity for creaks, rattles and other noises.

Carry on
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Originally Posted by Roosell
I have Bose, and I'm pleased with the sound. Then again I think I'm on the low end of expectations in this company.

I have H/K in my S class. It's good, but Bose in my 991 sounds better to me. If faced with making a choice to spend on the Bose again, I would do it. I have not listened enough to other's Bermester systems to know if I would take that leap, but Bose seems worth it to me.

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Old 09-17-2016, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Benedict14
Sweet !

I'm sure you've already thought of this, but - the install concerns me. I should say; finding the right shop, and them understanding your product, and it's settings/tuning concerns me. Also, replacing speakers creates an opportunity for creaks, rattles and other noises.

Carry on
You won't have to find a shop at all. Unless you don't feel comfortable with bolt-in, plug-n-play, and loosing two hours of your weekend
Old 09-17-2016, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 12v Nick
You won't have to find a shop at all. Unless you don't feel comfortable with bolt-in, plug-n-play, and loosing two hours of your weekend
Please put me on the list. I had the Full Speaker, amplifier and Subwoofer upgrade in my E92. It was an amazing plug and play kit!
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Originally Posted by Joec500
Please put me on the list. I had the Full Speaker, amplifier and Subwoofer upgrade in my E92. It was an amazing plug and play kit!
You're on there Joe, I remember you saying something a while back. Didn't see your vote though, what system do you have?
Old 09-17-2016, 08:15 PM
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Bose. Not satisfied with the audio sound at all. I really hope what you're developing is not an easy/straight forward DIY installation job with a reasonable price/cost, otherwise I would have to upgrade something that I wasn't planning to on my 991.1 CS2 Cab. LOL
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Originally Posted by 12v Nick
You won't have to find a shop at all. Unless you don't feel comfortable with bolt-in, plug-n-play, and loosing two hours of your weekend

Excellent. It's nice to have choices.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Given your teams 911TTS project, I'm assuming that you know a great deal about the 991, and its challenges.

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I'm in the camp that thinks all the negative criticism of BOSE is overdone. I'm NO fan of Bose. At the risk of sounding like a jerk - we have a very sophisticated sound system at home and I've got a good ear. I've had Burmester in a C2s cab. I've had BOSE in a 981 BS and now the C4s cab. With proper source material, dis-enabling the automatic sound nannies, and some testing, treble/bass setting, surround on/off on *every* input the BOSE system provides very good quality sound whether or not we're fast or slow, top up or down, etc. IMHO messing with the Porsche-provided electronics is a low return on investment. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by 12v Nick
You're on there Joe, I remember you saying something a while back. Didn't see your vote though, what system do you have?
Bose + Burmester Tweeter upgrade and Powered JL 8W3 in a sealed enclosure with an AudioControl Lc2i
Old 09-19-2016, 01:54 AM
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Burmester in my 2015 991.1 TT --
Unbelievable clarity at both low and high volumes. From classical to trance to rock to pop, I can't believe the improvement over the Bose in my previous 997 911S.
For those who feel audio is important, I urge you sample the Burmester at your local dealership with your own music.
Like most options, it's all about priorities and budget. Happy hunting.
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
Spent the extra 2k+ on Bose, not because it's very good, but because the Base system is so bad it should have limiters that only allow it to tune to AM talk radio. My 996 and 997 Turbos with Bose were much, much better. No idea why. The 996 came with a high-grade demo CD so I have been able to compare from the same source.
The 997 Bose had higher quality speakers than the 991 has. It was downgraded to be a value priced option for the 991 when an upsell to the Burmester was introduced. The actual speakers are about $10 each worth on the open market for non-car speakers.

There might also have been different variants of the 997 Bose, I never quite got whether "high end bose" was a change in designation or an upgrade you could buy.
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Originally Posted by squid42
The 997 Bose had higher quality speakers than the 991 has. It was downgraded to be a value priced option for the 991 when an upsell to the Burmester was introduced. The actual speakers are about $10 each worth on the open market for non-car speakers.

There might also have been different variants of the 997 Bose, I never quite got whether "high end bose" was a change in designation or an upgrade you could buy.
To my understanding, the "High End" was just a designation for the new system. I will say that spending a considerable amount of time with both platforms, The 991 Bose has better speakers than the 997. If I had to guess, the biggest cost offset is the fact that the 991 subwoofer uses the sheetmetal cavity in the bulkhead rather than a composite cabinet with factory carpet - that has to account for a good amount of the budget.

Here's the midrange label and the front three-way speaker setup. The tweeters are rubbish but the midrange and woofer are passable with some tuning and decent power.




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I have been "downgrading" systems for a while now... came from a Dynaudio system to a Volvo high quality non-dynaudio to the base system now in the 911...


Used to be audiophile, now I listen to NPR most of the time, so don't care much...

Anyhow, if something quick, nice and cheap comes out, Ill check it out, provided no impact in resale value is anticipated...
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Originally Posted by 911seeker
if something quick, nice and cheap comes out, Ill check it out, provided no impact in resale value is anticipated...
Does appreciation count?
Old 09-20-2016, 08:05 PM
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Appreciation would be great, but I find it difficult to recover the cost, let alone make equity along the way... I might be wrong...


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