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Old 05-19-2016, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stil_1
Where would you fit GT cars? Are they a subclass of Sport car, or Sporty Car, or below.
Me personally: I'd say "High End Sports Car" or "Sport/Track Car".

There can be quite a few sub categories.

I think we're beating a dead horse here. Do we really need exact labels??
Old 05-19-2016, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Buteo
911---> Sports car
Ferrari 458, Mclaren 560/650 Gallardo/hurracan ---> exotics
aventador sv,gt3 RS, speciale , 599 TDF ----> super car
P1, Veyron, Laferrari, 918---->. hypercar
It seems particularly fitting that someone with a taxonomic handle (Genus) writes a taxonomy for cars.
Old 05-19-2016, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by subshooter
I agree with all the above except the GT3RS. I don't think it fits in any of these categories. I don't know where it fits. If there was a track car category then yes.
Agree. Also w/ the taxonomy above from sportscar (911, C7 etc) to hypercar (P1, K'egg, La F - ugh, awful name).

Of course: take a current car back 15 years and it's in exotic performance realm. Progress.
Old 05-19-2016, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
Me personally: I'd say "High End Sports Car" or "Sport/Track Car".

There can be quite a few sub categories.

I think we're beating a dead horse here. Do we really need exact labels??
This was reminding me of another similar thread where someone was saying the 911 was not a sports car but rather a GT car, which got me curious since this thread is't pretty unanimous that it was a sports car category.

Ideally, back in the old days, sports car was the general category for cars built to go fast. That would be simple for categorization.

You are right that these days, so many classifications for fast cars based on a number of characteristics.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
I agree with most of this, but like the term hypercar for the 918 as an example because of the extreme level of performance and hybrid technology.

So, in my mind there are at least 4 levels:

Sports car (911)
Exotics
Supercars
Hypercars
Are these "levels" based on price or performance? For example since the ACR Viper has been beating 918 track records, so is it a hypercar? Or is it based on price?

I'm not a huge fan of the Proschius 918, Ferrari LaPrius, or the McLaren Prius1 though. They're awesome cars obviously, but for the price? I'd rather have a CGT, F50 or F1.

If it's pure speed you're after, with how fast a Tesla can make a family sedan, the gas motors and turbos and such will eventually be seen as a hinderance and the newest "hyper" cars will go fully electric. I'm just not interested in that.
Old 05-19-2016, 09:44 PM
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My wife and I were having a similar conversation the other day. We concluded that the Mazda MX-5, Toyota GT-86/Subaru BRZ, Cayman/Boxster and 911 are all sports cars. But what about the BMW M3/M4 and Ford Mustang/ Chevy Camaro? How do those fit into the taxonomy?
Old 05-19-2016, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by reuben991
... what about the BMW M3/M4 and Ford Mustang/ Chevy Camaro? How do those fit into the taxonomy?
Mustang/Camaro we can put into the muscle car bin, M3 definitely sport sedan, M4 sport coupe. I think the rear seats are too large to argue sports car, same with the GTR. That's not necessarily a negative, just that generally the "sports car" category is considered a 2-seater, and I think people generally consider the 911 a sports car because they aren't much of seats back there.
Old 05-20-2016, 12:41 AM
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I would guess that most people who don't have a Porsche would put them into the exotic (sports car) category. Maybe "entry level" exotics, but still, not in the same category as the Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, BRZ, WRX, Miata, etc.
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Sports ...no drama or multiple posts needed. It's obvious that not all 911s are created equal, but for the most part, they're sports cars.
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Originally Posted by LexVan
I agree with most of this, but like the term hypercar for the 918 as an example because of the extreme level of performance and hybrid technology.

So, in my mind there are at least 4 levels:

Sports car (911)
Exotics
Supercars
Hypercars
If this is the case, what would you consider a current supercar?

It feels, to me, that hypercar is another new marketing buzzword, but equates to the current generation of super car. Also, why did they skip ultracars?
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Originally Posted by Ynot
911 are sports car, most ferrari and lambo's are exotic, P1, koenigsegg, 918 are supercars.
This.
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Originally Posted by Dewinator
Are these "levels" based on price or performance? For example since the ACR Viper has been beating 918 track records, so is it a hypercar? Or is it based on price?
I'm not up on every car. Far from it. Yes, in some regards, in my mind, only, yes, it's based on price and attainability. Attainability to me is more about "availability and accessibility" and less about the actual purchase price.
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Originally Posted by 991TR
If this is the case, what would you consider a current supercar?

It feels, to me, that hypercar is another new marketing buzzword, but equates to the current generation of super car. Also, why did they skip ultracars?
As to your supercars question, I'll throw this one out at you. Again, I'm not up on all the "new" cars. I'd easily suggest a Porsche 959 and a Carrera GT are both supercars. In the same sediment, I'd suggest a 1997 993 Turbo S is an exotic. For these 3 examples, the differences are slight (again, in my mind only) and might even be interchangeable.

I really do like the term "hypercar" when you take into consideration the hybrid technology of the current 918 Spyder. Seems to fit well for me.

I consider the ACR Viper a Dodge.
Old 05-20-2016, 10:18 AM
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I think I read yesterday the Turbo S does a 2.5 second 0-60. True "hypercar" performance at a sports car price point. Porsche performance, engineering and reliability are amazing!
Old 05-20-2016, 10:21 AM
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It is a hypersportyexotic!


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