carciofigiudia

Driving is a sensory experience. The 991.2 is not. The engine lacks vivacity, the ride feels insulated, the turbo lag is noticeable.

I test drove the car myself and then next to a race driver. His driving was impressive, but the car felt just the same. All you want at the touch of a button, but always insulated from the reality. Felt like playing Need for Speed from a sofa.

I'm not disputing the steering, the amazing PDK, the comfort or the styling. A lot of engineering went into this great daily driver. I just miss the raw feel of a sports car. There's more to driving than g-force on demand.

Am I the only one thinking this way?

Does the Cayman have more "soul"?

petee1997

What would you recommend with more "soul".

Al.Fresco

A Kia would have more "Seoul" ;-)

STG

We've been down this road before and even I'm exhausted. The .1 and .2 have their trade offs. Depends how you like to roll. Both great in different ways.

carciofigiudia

Haha nice one

Didn't mean to complain. Just wanted to know if many people here feel the same.

I don't mean to offend any 911 fans but the Boxster / Cayman simply seems a superior driver's car to me.

carciofigiudia

Could you please explain the trade off? What are you gaining with the 991.2?

STG

More HP and low end torque. Faster 0-60, and option of rear steering.

Speedster91

Ok. Cool.

Gonna go pick up a copy of need for speed for 50 bucks instead. Thanks for the heads up.

XR4Tim

Maybe drive one with a stick. I enjoyed it a lot more (though I also enjoyed the PDK version). But the "raw feel" you're looking for might be better found in something like a Shelby Cobra.

Dewinator

With the 4-banger?

maxpowers

I have both a 1st gen Cayman S and a 2014 911 and I do feel a little more connected to the Cayman, although the 911 has more power and feel a lot more grown up. Both cars are manual and that's the only transmission I'll buy for a sports car

I've driven cars with turbo lag and DCT automatics, but not the 991.2 so obviously I can't comment on that particular car, but I understand what you're saying. I'm not buying a sports car for the numbers it generates or technological features, but rather to enjoy actually driving the car. With the turbo lag and DCT I felt like I lost a lot of that experience. I'm kind of nervous about the 991.2 along with the new Boxster/Cayman

On another note, I do play Need For Speed every now and then and find it fun, but I also got Grand Turismo 6 with a wheel stand, wheel, 3 pedals, and a gearshift and that's a lot better driving experience than NFS. Much more intense

carciofigiudia

Not really given the turbo lag

Not in practical circumstances (see above)

yes, very cool option

carciofigiudia

Grateful for your tip. My hope was to stay with Porsche as I love everything else about the car. Though it seems that the 991.2 is just not the car for me.

So I'm looking towards the Cayman or even Panamera as an answer. Still, I won't miss my next chance to drive the Cobra.

STG

You can't argue the numbers. Looks at the stats. The increased torque and HP isn't erased by the slight, slight lag. Seriously?? The published power curves and stats aren't imaginary. They were executed with this "lag" built in.

carciofigiudia

Quote of the thread!