First Impression 991-2 Cab S
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After another drive I would add to my previous comments that there is a noticeable hiss from the turbo when you take your foot off the gas. Also the exhaust burble appears more promoted ( sports mode).
One huge difference is the shift patten on the gear box. On my GTS in sports mode plus it will simply not change up until very high revs, this car in the same mode will change up with moderate throttle input at 3500 rpm. Dropping back down a gear if you coast and the revs drop below 2500 rpm.
Having played around with various speeds and different modes it is very clear that the car in all modes is changing up much sooner. Naturally this has an affect on the sound as it never really revs that high. I'm sure on a track when you could really push it, the gears would hold longer and the sound would build accordingly but on public roads the short shifting builds the speed very well without the revs.
From a standing start (not launch control) the acceleration is wonderful, it's feels very quick indeed, and due to the sifting pattern you don't feel that you're abusing the car. I known they're built to be driven but in my car I always feel a slight ting of guilt when I bury the throttle from a standing start and see her almost red line through the gears.
One huge difference is the shift patten on the gear box. On my GTS in sports mode plus it will simply not change up until very high revs, this car in the same mode will change up with moderate throttle input at 3500 rpm. Dropping back down a gear if you coast and the revs drop below 2500 rpm.
Having played around with various speeds and different modes it is very clear that the car in all modes is changing up much sooner. Naturally this has an affect on the sound as it never really revs that high. I'm sure on a track when you could really push it, the gears would hold longer and the sound would build accordingly but on public roads the short shifting builds the speed very well without the revs.
From a standing start (not launch control) the acceleration is wonderful, it's feels very quick indeed, and due to the sifting pattern you don't feel that you're abusing the car. I known they're built to be driven but in my car I always feel a slight ting of guilt when I bury the throttle from a standing start and see her almost red line through the gears.
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The turbo engines shift in earlier RPM ranges than the 991.1 NA
The appeal and character of the NA engine is the rip and scream of the higher RPM's. Don't feel sorry for it. It loves the exercise!
Ian, the sound will never duplicate the NA GTS. That is a well understood fact. The hisssss and whizzzz is the new norm ...
The appeal and character of the NA engine is the rip and scream of the higher RPM's. Don't feel sorry for it. It loves the exercise!
Ian, the sound will never duplicate the NA GTS. That is a well understood fact. The hisssss and whizzzz is the new norm ...
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The turbo engines shift in earlier RPM ranges than the 991.1 NA The appeal and character of the NA engine is the rip and scream of the higher RPM's. Don't feel sorry for it. It loves the exercise! Ian, the sound will never duplicate the NA GTS. That is a well understood fact. The hisssss and whizzzz is the new norm ...
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Originally Posted by Sharm
why is it that the turbo short shifts?
Interesting reading ..
http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-gri...s-are-winning/
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...turbocharging/
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Interesting school of thought. In the old days of big single turbos you wanted long gearing to take advantage of the boost and spool without shifting and losing boost. Ah the good ol' days.
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I have a regular round trip I go on with the GTS. Hour out of town, hour basically revving the ovaries off it on country roads, hour back. During the last hour the car feels so much better than during the first. It does really seem to like being thrashed more than pottering to the shops and back (which it also does quite a lot of).
I hear the OP about shift points though. One of the reasons I always drive in manual is that for my taste normal mode shifts up too early, and sport a bit too late. Plus I just like deciding what gear I want to be in.
I hear the OP about shift points though. One of the reasons I always drive in manual is that for my taste normal mode shifts up too early, and sport a bit too late. Plus I just like deciding what gear I want to be in.
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I have a regular round trip I go on with the GTS. Hour out of town, hour basically revving the ovaries off it on country roads, hour back. During the last hour the car feels so much better than during the first. It does really seem to like being thrashed more than pottering to the shops and back (which it also does quite a lot of).
I hear the OP about shift points though. One of the reasons I always drive in manual is that for my taste normal mode shifts up too early, and sport a bit too late. Plus I just like deciding what gear I want to be in.
I hear the OP about shift points though. One of the reasons I always drive in manual is that for my taste normal mode shifts up too early, and sport a bit too late. Plus I just like deciding what gear I want to be in.
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
those 2500/3500 short shifts that PDK make sin normal/sport mode is one, if not the, most annoying feature of PDK IMO
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Someone can probably explain it better than I can. Turbo engines torque advantage is in the lower RPM range.
Interesting reading ..
http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-gri...s-are-winning/
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...turbocharging/
Interesting reading ..
http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-gri...s-are-winning/
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...turbocharging/
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Those pictures proved a true revelation. I had no idea that Porsche decided to put the steering on the right side of the cockpit in the .2. As far as I'm concerned, even considering the improved low end torque, that change is a deal killer for me.