Pavegeno928

Followed one for 20 minutes yesterday in southern Stuttgart. The vertical grill looks pretty good in person...I thought they looked like crap in the pictures and on the configurator. The exhaust and the cooling outlets on the rear weren't bad at all.

Pavegeno928

Another picture...

cloud9blue

Still can't get over how awkward that center exhaust make the rear end looks. Personally I would skip the PSE ($2950 is not really worth it for a marginally louder and deeper exhaust tone judging from official exhaust sound track on the Porsche website) and get some aftermarket exhaust with a more traditional look if the stock ones is really too terrible. That way you can get rid of the silly pneumatic valves on the silencer as well, which will rattle as the miles start to pile up on the car.

fast1

The big advantage that PSE offers is you can turn it off, and this can be a big advantage in the right circumstance. For example I was taking a walk early on a Sunday morning when a base 991 pulled out of the garage of one of the home's in my neighborhood. Since it was so early in the morning, the driver did his best to make as little noise as possible, but his aftermarket exhaust made a sound similar to a car with a hole in the muffler. I doubt that he went over 2500 RPM, but the exhaust was nevertheless very loud. I'm certain that he upset quite a few people that morning.

cloud9blue

True that, cold starts in most german performance cars these days is ridiculously loud, even with stock exhaust, these days as the ECU purposely raise the idle speed and lean out the afr in attempt to quickly heat up the cat to reduce emission...

Guess we have wait to hear one in person to make the final judgment. Maybe the thing would look better with black tips, like the GT3, instead of chrome, which kind of highlights the fact that the car awkwardly has two anuses...

STG

The higher idle speed and "loud" exhaust only lasts under one minute now at start up.

Anuses??? Too much info there. Please, let's keep this a family friendly place.

STG

I just can't come to grips with this for the "sportier" PSE. I'm trying to like it, but ...

Koriel

That picture strongly reminds me of a VW New Beetle with the vertical grill and centered tailpipes of the original Beetle.

STG

OMG. You nailed it!






The rear grill carried over to the tail pipes



Rear grill carried over to the tail pipes!!

Noah Fect

Jeez, they must've hired the Aztek designer and taught him to speak German.

ChoyV

+911

thomnellie

Thanks for the pics. Back to the origins, very cool. My first Beetles were ultimately responsible for my Porsche purchase. They had a solidity lacking in the American and British cars of the era that I had previously driven. The relatively rigid body and novel suspension had a feel that made the driving experience unique, the rear engine gave them tremendous winter traction and their maneuverability made them fun to drive. I have preferred German cars ever since because they have always maintained these qualities relative to their contemporaries. In my mind, there is nothing wrong with design elements that echo Porsche and VW common origins.

fast1

I was a muscle car guy back in the late 60s. My first car was a 327 ci / 350 HP C2 Corvette, but in 1968 I got my first drive in a Porsche, a 356B. It was owned by a coworker of mine, and to be honest the exterior didn't appeal to me that much. I preferred the look of my C2, but then I got to drive it and everything changed. I had never driven a car that handled like that and after nearly fifty years, I'm still searching.

GSIRM3

For some of us, another big advantage of PSE is no potential warranty issues that might be involved with aftermarket exhausts. Not trying to start a war here arguing over whether an aftermarket exhaust creates warranty issues, but I know people that have had warranty issues because of it, and owners have documented such cases on this board, and the other Porsche board. I have never had any issues with the PSE valves rattling with any of my 911's with PSE as another poster suggested mentioned.

Regardless, I agree with most of the posters that the center exhausts with the 991.2 PSE are going to take a very long time to get to like.

Carlo_Carrera

There are many folks who track/DE/Autocross turbo charged 911 Porsches so I am not sure what you are saying?

Have you driven a turbo charged 911 Porsche? Especially a water cooled version?