On the Road in the 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S
08-07-2015, 02:57 PM
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On the Road in the 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S
08-07-2015, 03:09 PM
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"Look closer, though, and you’ll spot the two intercoolers stowed away in the rear fenders. They cool a new turbocharged, 3.0-liter flat-six. The base Carrera has the same engine in 370-hp tune. Here in the Carrera S, it produces 420 hp at 6,500 rpm. As far as the maximum torque is concerned, it’s 332 lb-ft against 369 lb-ft in the Carrera, which is available from 1,700 to 5,000 rpm in both trims. That’s a boost of about 20 hp and about 45 lb-ft over its predecessor, which isn’t much. But Porsche claims the way in which that power and torque is delivered makes all the difference
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there we go
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there we go
08-07-2015, 03:40 PM
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1) one 3.0L engine two tunes
2) optional front axle lift
3) optional RWS
5) five "Sport Chrono" modes
6) optional GT3 PCCBs ... I wonder if the S will get the GT3 steels as stock?
2) optional front axle lift
3) optional RWS
5) five "Sport Chrono" modes
6) optional GT3 PCCBs ... I wonder if the S will get the GT3 steels as stock?
08-07-2015, 04:26 PM
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Burning Brakes
I predict lots of handwringing but many here and elsewhere will continue to buy. Like every iteration of 911 that has come before it is faster, more powerful, and more efficient than the one it replaces.
My only thought is they really need to make the S version a good value for more than its horsepower bump. It's inevitable that with the same engine an aftermarket tuner will unlock the withheld ponies on the base car in short order.
My only thought is they really need to make the S version a good value for more than its horsepower bump. It's inevitable that with the same engine an aftermarket tuner will unlock the withheld ponies on the base car in short order.
08-07-2015, 04:30 PM
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I predict lots of handwringing but many here and elsewhere will continue to buy. Like every iteration of 911 that has come before it is faster, more powerful, and more efficient than the one it replaces.
My only thought is they really need to make the S version a good value for more than its horsepower bump. It's inevitable that with the same engine an aftermarket tuner will unlock the withheld ponies on the base car in short order.
My only thought is they really need to make the S version a good value for more than its horsepower bump. It's inevitable that with the same engine an aftermarket tuner will unlock the withheld ponies on the base car in short order.
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08-07-2015, 04:49 PM
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Burning Brakes
MINI's (BMW) used to be that way too Larry but the genie's been out of the bottle for a while now. The newest generation F56 JCW that's only been out a couple of months already has tunes.
08-07-2015, 04:53 PM
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good to know ... I looked around after I posted seems that there are a couple of 991 flashes....
08-07-2015, 05:09 PM
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Although there appear to be some interesting upgrades, I don't see anything that makes me regret the 2016 C2S I have on order. Perhaps the more thorough reviews that will come later in the year will lead to that.
08-07-2015, 05:14 PM
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Wow these are the first official shots of the 991.2 I guess then. I have to say as much as I love the current naturally aspirated 991s, it looks like Porsche did the best they could with the transition to turbo. And frankly, I think the exterior looks fine. I find the new front fascia much more harmonious than the 991.1's and the rear looks decent. My only gripe so far is the new rear vents (much prefer the horizontal slats) but I'll get used to them too.
08-07-2015, 06:28 PM
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Positives. If those times are accurate, it's a fair bit quicker than the current C2S.
Negatives. It's not better looking than the car it replaces. We still have no idea about lag, as the author wasn't driving and the car was being driven in manual model by a pro driver who admittedly was keeping the revs up in the meat of the power band.
Seems like the fuel efficiency gain is dead on what I expected (1-2 city, 2-4 highway), in fact may be a little less, since those are the improvements in the silly European tests.
Still think both bumpers look kinda fugly, but that color hides it better than most.
Negatives. It's not better looking than the car it replaces. We still have no idea about lag, as the author wasn't driving and the car was being driven in manual model by a pro driver who admittedly was keeping the revs up in the meat of the power band.
Seems like the fuel efficiency gain is dead on what I expected (1-2 city, 2-4 highway), in fact may be a little less, since those are the improvements in the silly European tests.
Still think both bumpers look kinda fugly, but that color hides it better than most.
08-07-2015, 07:40 PM
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Looks like a detuned version of my M4
It will be interesting to see the first comparison between these two cars. I think the consensus best tuner for BMW is Dinan and they have a pretty good explanation on their website for 'getting around' a stock ECU. It seems these turbo charged engines have pretty big capabilities beyond the stock tune
It will be interesting to see the first comparison between these two cars. I think the consensus best tuner for BMW is Dinan and they have a pretty good explanation on their website for 'getting around' a stock ECU. It seems these turbo charged engines have pretty big capabilities beyond the stock tune
08-07-2015, 07:49 PM
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" As far as the maximum torque is concerned, it’s 332 lb-ft against 369 lb-ft in the Carrera, which is available from 1,700 to 5,000 rpm in both trims. That’s a boost of about 20 hp and about 45 lb-ft over its predecessor, which isn’t much. But Porsche claims the way in which that power and torque is delivered makes all the difference[/I]
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I still prefer n/a engines in my sports cars, but the performance advantage of turbos is undeniable. This article makes the new car seem very relaxed in character, yet fast. So even more of a GT then.
08-07-2015, 08:21 PM
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On the Road in the 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S
Article said (or I read it) rear wheel steering would be optional on the S. Anyone excited by that?
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