991.2 "undisguised"
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991.2 "undisguised"
I'm usually one for liking the latest and greatest. For some reason, I just have a bad feeling about this one. I think there may be a few hiccups along the way... But what do I know?
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991.2 &quot;undisguised&quot;
Originally Posted by Squires9914s
UGGLLYY!!
I glad I got my 991.1
I glad I got my 991.1
I must say, the current 991.1 has great smooth lines. The changes on the 991.2 look a little more "animated" and don't flow very well. The front/rear take bits from the Cayman/Cayenne and the designers are carrying over certain bits from model to model. They should have the 911 be totally unique in my option. No Macan steering wheel, Cayman-ish details, etc ...
I even see similar Porsche styling carry over to Volkswagens.
My opinion ...
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991.2 &amp;amp;quot;undisguised&amp;amp;quot;
450HP Naturally Aspirated 911R?? Hmmmmm... This sounds interesting.
"While the free breathing, naturally aspirated 4.0-liter motor fitted to the current Porsche 911 GT3 RS has some potential for evolution, it will eventually be superseded by an even brawnier, lightweight Mk II engine, but without forced induction. The lightweight, no-frills Porsche 911R scheduled to appear in limited quantity next year will have a naturally aspirated 450-hp engine"
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...#ixzz3g5oZMuxb
** pictures are the 991.2 "turbo" facelift
"While the free breathing, naturally aspirated 4.0-liter motor fitted to the current Porsche 911 GT3 RS has some potential for evolution, it will eventually be superseded by an even brawnier, lightweight Mk II engine, but without forced induction. The lightweight, no-frills Porsche 911R scheduled to appear in limited quantity next year will have a naturally aspirated 450-hp engine"
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...#ixzz3g5oZMuxb
** pictures are the 991.2 "turbo" facelift
Last edited by STG; Jul 16, 2015 at 07:38 PM.
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Sometimes the truth hurts, and sometimes it's just hilarious. 
I'm a latest and greatest kind of guy, and if I was getting ready to order, I'd be waiting for the newer model too. But I don't see anything in the 991.2 that makes me regret buying my 15 GTS. And after it hits the street (I'll bet not until late winter/early spring), we're all going to be gushing over it (as we should) and we'll be deriding the spy shots of the next 911 chassis. Cuz that's just what we do!!
I'm a latest and greatest kind of guy, and if I was getting ready to order, I'd be waiting for the newer model too. But I don't see anything in the 991.2 that makes me regret buying my 15 GTS. And after it hits the street (I'll bet not until late winter/early spring), we're all going to be gushing over it (as we should) and we'll be deriding the spy shots of the next 911 chassis. Cuz that's just what we do!!
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My interest has been aroused with the mention of a 911R, but I think I know how this will go. The 911R for Porsche was an exercise in extreme weight reduction coupled with more power. Originally, the 2010 Boxster Spyder tried to do the same thing by shaving weight albeit by less extreme measures than the 911R. What happened with that car is the same thing that will happen with this new 911R. When I went to buy my Spyder it became IMPOSSIBLE to find one that actually was ordered from the factory the way it was intended.
Instead, almost every one had A/C added back in, a radio, sport exhaust, bi-xenons, Sport seats instead of lightweight buckets and a lot had PDK. Each of those options added weight back into a car that Porsche had made efforts to lighten and therefore differentiate and improve. If there is a 911R, my guess is that Porsche will manage to strip 100-200lbs using techniques gleaned from the GT3 as well as deletion of some of the creature comforts.
Very few buyers will actually avail themselves of the car as it is intended. Instead, we'll see many options (and therefore pounds) added back in to make the car 'livable' or comfortable. The irony is that my guess is that some judicious use of the configurator could get you a car within striking distance of the weight of this new 911R. I ordered my car with weight being a concern, and I'd wager that it will end up having similar power/weight ratio as 90% of the 911Rs that get built. Few dealers were willing to order extreme Spyders for stock, and fewer still will do so for this 911R.
Instead, almost every one had A/C added back in, a radio, sport exhaust, bi-xenons, Sport seats instead of lightweight buckets and a lot had PDK. Each of those options added weight back into a car that Porsche had made efforts to lighten and therefore differentiate and improve. If there is a 911R, my guess is that Porsche will manage to strip 100-200lbs using techniques gleaned from the GT3 as well as deletion of some of the creature comforts.
Very few buyers will actually avail themselves of the car as it is intended. Instead, we'll see many options (and therefore pounds) added back in to make the car 'livable' or comfortable. The irony is that my guess is that some judicious use of the configurator could get you a car within striking distance of the weight of this new 911R. I ordered my car with weight being a concern, and I'd wager that it will end up having similar power/weight ratio as 90% of the 911Rs that get built. Few dealers were willing to order extreme Spyders for stock, and fewer still will do so for this 911R.
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991.2 "undisguised"
Originally Posted by Penn4S
Don't like the rear at all. It's messy back there.
Not sleek and smooth like the current ....