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Old May 18, 2015 | 02:28 AM
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Hello all!

First post after reading for what seems like an eternity.

Well the time has finally come. I'm ordering my first Porsche, and I wanted to hear your opinions on my build.

Car will not be tracked, as I'm planning on keeping it for the foreseeable future. With the coming turbo engines and who knows what hybrid wizardry after that, I think these NA cars will be future classics.

Went for a clean black interior look, use the 3D for the full effect.

Options are as follows:
Carrera S, White
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Model designation 911
Sunroof delete
Platinum satin wheels
PCCB
Black full leather
Burmester
Black PDLS
Sportdesign mirrors
Sport chrono
Sport seats plus 4 way with leather shells
Leather interior package plus steering column casing, sun visors, and center console trim in leather
Multifunction wheel
Instrument dials in black (thoughts on white?)

http://www.porsche-code.com/PG3V9BQ9

I know, I know, no SPASM... Ground clearance is an issue for me, I have a golf R that is scratched to hell under the front bumper, and it has more clearance than regular PASM I believe. I baby that thing over curbs and speed bumps too. Don't know what else to do. I don't want the added stress of constantly worrying about it. Plus the extra suspension travel couldn't hurt on Ohio's "roads".

Let me know what you think. I'm placing the order Tuesday and will update as things progress.

Thanks everyone!

-Mike
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Old May 18, 2015 | 09:14 AM
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I like it! Very purposeful. You might want to consider white gauges or the aluminum trim strip on the dash and doors to break up the black interior just a little bit.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 09:49 AM
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Different build than I would do, but I noticed you did not opt for the ventilated seats. Perhaps something to consider?
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Old May 18, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ibmiked
I like it! Very purposeful. You might want to consider white gauges or the aluminum trim strip on the dash and doors to break up the black interior just a little bit.
Not sure which package adds the aluminum trim across the door panel to match the dash, but that's a nice look. I wish my car had that. *** Just looked again! You have it!

I'd at least do the 14 way seats too with the nicer interior upgrades you've done. Don't skimp there.

PSE?? Porsche Sport Exhaust?? You already have SC and ceramic brakes. Give the car a little soul and sound. You can turn it on/off under different scenarios. You'll find that you love it.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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Ditch the PCCB; waste of money with little benefit unless you're planning on racing it or pulling multiple high speed stops on a daily basis. Also, get the sports exhaust.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 11:46 AM
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A couple of thoughts on your interior . . . With a black interior, you will not even see the leather on the steering column. It's not all that expensive, but you could save a couple bucks there. Also, keeping with the all-black motif, would you consider carbon fiber trim rather than leather? It may provide a bit of texture and sportiness without contrast. If you went that route, I'd keep black leather on the console and only put carbon on the dash and doors. How about all black gauges (no extra cost) to go all the way with black?
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Old May 18, 2015 | 12:17 PM
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I've driven PCCB and non cars back to back and, while the PCCB stopping power is awesome, I found it to be ridiculous overkill for the street. It was so strong that I had to totally change the way I applied pedal pressure. Amazing brakes, but unless I was tracking the car, did not see the value in them. I'd just suggest that you drive a car with them, if you haven't already, to make sure they're right for you.

I'd add seat ventilation and the upgrade seats if I were you.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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PCCB: the only reason I'd do them is for the no brake pad dust. Expensive though, and you don't get any $$$ back for them at resale. Dealers won't give you an extra $1 for them at trade.

Any replacement costs for any reason. Very $$$$

That being said, I still think they're cool.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 12:27 PM
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With some tweaks to that config it may make more sense to order a GTS... if you ditch the PCCBs you can get a similarly equipped GTS for $125k vs your $129k build. The GTS comes standard with Sport Chrono, Black Headlights with PDLS, Sport Design Mirrors, Sport Seats Plus (4 way)... not to mention the addition of the Powerkit, PSE, and the very nice Turbo S wheels.

I think in your case you are adding a number of the standard GTS options so why not go for the extra power/higher trim level?
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Old May 18, 2015 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by STG991
PCCB: the only reason I'd do them is for the no brake pad dust.
Agreed. But I could pay someone to wipe my wheels every time I drive for less than the cost of the PCCB. Very pricey approach to no brake dust.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Agreed. But I could pay someone to wipe my wheels every time I drive for less than the cost of the PCCB. Very pricey approach to no brake dust.
I agree! Except nobody ever washes my car except me. Don't trust anyone with it.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Vise
With some tweaks to that config it may make more sense to order a GTS... if you ditch the PCCBs you can get a similarly equipped GTS for $125k vs your $129k build. The GTS comes standard with Sport Chrono, Black Headlights with PDLS, Sport Design Mirrors, Sport Seats Plus (4 way)... not to mention the addition of the Powerkit, PSE, and the very nice Turbo S wheels. I think in your case you are adding a number of the standard GTS options so why not go for the extra power/higher trim level?
I was going to mention that. I think he may not like the front Sport Design bumper because of the clearance concern. I never have issues, but some people seem to.

The GTS package is really a no brainer. Too bad they waited so long in the cycle to release it. That's one thing I hate that they trickle out the different models over the years.

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Old May 18, 2015 | 01:11 PM
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Ive owned a white 14 C2S MT and now have a white metallic 15 GTS Cab MT. IMO the white metallic paint is definitely worth the small charge to upgrade. PCCB is overkill...standard brakes are fine if you are not tracking car. 4 way seats are terrible on a car that expensive...a must upgrade for me.
I agree with these for sure: Black full leather, Black PDLS, Sportdesign mirrors, and Sport chrono
My C2S did not have sportdesign mirrors, full leather, and sports chrono. I now have them on the GTS and IMO they are must haves.

I do think you should consider a GTS. PSE is awesome, added power, and the GTS clutch gearbox feel better.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tomusko
Well the time has finally come. I'm ordering my first Porsche, and I wanted to hear your opinions on my build.

Car will not be tracked, as I'm planning on keeping it for the foreseeable future.
-Mike
Pse for sound
14 way for comfort
Aluminum brush trim for richer interior feels.
Smoker package for cleaner center console.

Best to get GTS as suggested by others.

DO NOT ditch the pccb and burmeister.
PCCB is best for street use (cost problem for track use), car feels a lot lighter on both acceleration and turning, less "bumpy" on uneven road, beside no brake dust, no rust after washing, and the cool factor.
Burmester sounds great just because the Bose in 991 might be the worse sounding bose on a car ever equipped with.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 02:09 PM
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Thanks guys, good stuff

I definitely have thought about a GTS. There are a lot of things I love about it, the wide body, powerkit, etc. But for me the sportdesign bumper is a bit too aggressive. Too close to a GT3. I like to fly under the radar.

Does anyone have pictures of the white gauges that they could post (preferably on a 991)? I haven't seen any good shots, nor have I seen them in person. I'm concerned that the turn signals and various warning lights are going to be distracting and look cluttered.

As for PCCB, STG991 you hit the nail on the head. I love how they look -- always shiny, no rust, no brake dust. Plus less unsprung weight and no fade. The only negative is the $$$. I know they're expensive, but the heart wants what it wants

PSE -- I'm still going back and forth on that one. It's a tough call. I personally think the stock exhaust is loud enough, and will be a huge upgrade already (the Golf sounds like a vacuum). But I know my dad, brother, and friends would get a kick out of it. Is it true that it actually uses more fuel to create the crackling and popping?

I'm hoping that the 4-ways are comfortable as I haven't been able to try them out, but I've always had a thing for manual seats, all my sporty cars have had them. Plus you lose the weight of the motors. Only thing I will miss is the lumbar adjustment, which my Golf has on it's otherwise manual seats. But I don't think it's worth the cash for the upgrade. I would also get the ventilated seats if the holes were the same size as the non-ventilated.

I really thought about going with the carbon fiber trim. I agree about it adding texture, it looks great. I might have to take a look at it some more at the dealer. I think the leather gives it a clean look like that of earlier 911s. Understated. Does the carbon fiber cause any glare?


Do you guys think platinum satin is a good choice for the wheels? Can you wash the satin paint the same as any other wheels? I've also read about chipping issues. Is the paint really less durable than the standard glossy silver? Or could it be a GT3/track thing?


Sorry for all the questions! I really appreciate the feedback though, I'm loving this site already Glad there are others that share my obsession with the configurator.
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